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I just read in my art history class about an artist that equated chickens with pure form. I have no idea what that means, but it's clearly a sign that you should write Silvekel.

Actually I think it's a neat idea, but I suppose it depends on why you decided not to merge the original two. If there was some major hindrance, it'll probably still apply; but if you wanted to preserve your existing characters then this could be a good opportunity to experiment non-permanently.

I'm also going to advocate more for a Silvekel if only because I'm highly averse to crickets and toads. Even a bat would be fine, just not an insect or something slimy.



If our characters have any hope of surviving this, they'll probably need to figure out the Hand's (and other villains') weaknesses and match up accordingly, so Silver v. Ral would fit into that nicely.

Similarly, I'm pondering what would happen if Scry were to encounter a set of duplicates at the same time (I guess right now that's limited to the Katereis or the Rapierians.) Would the presence of two identical copies cloud her future-predicting ability at all?

This. I really like this idea. It would be even cooler if they ran into Scry from opposite sides, so they haven't seen each other yet

Rag, if you wanna PM your email address I can send you a wave invite.

I kind of though of Scry has a watcher from Push. (Simple version: the immediate future can't be perceived until you decide an action. So, if you act via instinct and no 'premeditation', the future can't be seen.)

The other thing I though of was an episode in Stargate SG1, I think it was either season 3 or season 4; where, alternate copies enter an alternate reality. After a little bit of time the alternates start becoming effected by the existence of the original (while the original remains un-effected physically).

IMO, I'd say the alts should be affected to a certain degree, the severity is up to you guys though; probably along the lines of drawing mana to cast a spell takes more effort and is more wasting. (Which would explain, at least to me, the subtle presence of Waz/A.Selax in Cythera)

Email = necrialx from gmail, there ya go Jacks.

Avatara, I'm going to reply to your PM as soon as I finish this post.

iKaterei and Dark

- Avatara made a really good analogy for Scry's powers the other day in irc by equating them to Nicholas Cage's power in the movie "Next". If you haven't seen the movie the power works as follows: Scry sees and experiences all possible futures for the next few minutes until she finds the perfect one to suit her needs, which she then lives out for real. Reacting on instinct rather than thinking out your moves wouldn't matter at all because she see knows what's going to happen.

The multiple versions theory for throwing her power out of whack is very cool, I'm just not sure how/if I'd want to use it. I think that she would "see" a point in the future where she couldn't see anything and immediately retreat. So the Katerei's could save people by getting her to run away if they both got close to her. I think they are the only doubles who could pull it off though since I don't really see the Raperians teaming up to help anyone. It's something to think about.

Avatara mentioned that Scry seems a bit strong for her position in the Hand and she is. Probably more dangerous than all the others. She used to be a hero (before she got her powers) but her mind was sealed away and she's basically Kain's slave now. I want to do some fun things with that, and I've already spoke with one or two of you about plans (won't mention who and ruin the surprise).

I would make sure it looks like this, instead of how you put it, because bots may pick up on it and sign you up for spam. Just FYI.

You'd figure bots would be able to pick up on the AT/DOT thing by now since its been in use for a few years. But like adam said, ASW is usually at the top of google search results for a lot of topics so I wouldn't post your email publicly.

It's a moot point since I already sent Ragnar0k an invite.

Invite accepted. Also a forum ninja fixed the email thing for me, so that's pretty cool.

Edits to my post so you don't have to go back and read the whole thing

- The attack on the city at the end of the post was removed. I'm delaying it till dark to give everyone time to do things before it all hits the fan.

- The Hand (now totally without ruffians) will attack the heroes specifically and are not meant to take over the city at all.

- The ruffians from the attack are replaced with illusions. Alt Wiz and Krys make complex illusions to make it look like the Castle is under attack and draw off the guards. Since Wiz is actually in the castle keeping up his charade will be easy.

/end

I will finish making those edits tonight in case someone does want to go back and read them. I'm a little too busy right now though.

P.S. Sorry Dark, I can't figure how to use your stuff without causing the exact same problems using the ruffians made. It would be easy to work your plans into the story days to come though, just not #8.

This post has been edited by Ragnar0k: 25 January 2010 - 02:03 PM

Sounds good, guess I'll just have Creon go hunt for the Cytheran equivalent of a deer, to get some fresh meat while the men twiddle their thumbs. Almost done with my post, just need to reread it a couple more times (after classes tomorrow) and it should be ready to be tossed into the TS.

Note: I have left my description of the portal pretty vague, because I imagine Selax or that slacker Wizard has an idea for what it looks like.


Edit: The two (main) characters I've introduced are Lieutenant Creon (alt-Radik) and Captain Lysander

This post has been edited by Dark Jet: 30 January 2010 - 12:07 AM

hmmm, I was working on a post when a pertinent question occurred to me:
How did 'the Hand' beat SWTS to Cademia without some sort of encounter? Didn't they leave Kosha at a later date?

They weren't carrying an old hobbled man?

They left the day after and, as Avatara suggested, they were able to travel at a much faster pace... See "Speed of Plot" for details.

The question isn't "How did they pass?" but "How did they pass without an alert party that includes a powerful telepath noticing?" Were they wearing Odd Helms or something?

*shrug*

I'd just assumed they didn't travel the same way. I'm not sure on the exact scale of the island or what path the road runs along between Kosha and Cademia but it should be large enough for two groups to leave at different times, take different routes to the same place, and arrive at different times without meeting. Goes back to the questions about terrain. Are there hills around? Trees? Is it all flat grassland between Kosha and Cademia? The posts we made say at least a good chunk is densely forested.

The heroes were following Devlin who stayed off the main road to try to avoid them, their trip would have been longer by default and would have kept them a reasonable distance from where the Hand passed them. When focused on finding the murderer/kidnapper they wouldn't have risked losing the trail to confront a distant group of strangers even if Wizard did sense them. I don't think they would have anyway. I'm not suggesting our group never had a clue someone else was going to Cademia, only that if they did no meeting would have occurred.

In the event that we're saying they would have investigated we have to remember that Scry can see the future. The Hand would have easily avoided our group. If the next question was, "Why wouldn't the Hand fight them?" that's easy. They didn't have a reason to confront the heroes at the time. Orders to fight don't come till after the Hand hits Cademia (heh).

Helpful?

Edit I honestly didn't play the situation out in my head before you posed the questions Silver, at least not in the detail I'm thinking it through now. I'm confident it still makes sense though. I forgot to add that the Hand also has Krys who is also a powerful psychic and might have been able to help them hide from Wizard since his attention was elsewhere. I'm assuming that if he was looking for another psychic specifically he would have found her pretty quickly since she isn't as strong as he is. At least not as strong as his evil double, I don't know how their powers match up.

This post has been edited by Ragnar0k: 08 February 2010 - 06:54 PM

There isn't a road between Kosha and Cademia at all. If SWTS was following Devlin through the forest, the Hand might have travelled along the coastline which could be less densely forested and easier. (Would also explain how they got there faster, if that's the case, though I don't have time at the moment to work out the pacing.)

And both groups have telepaths, so maybe they cancel each other out

I guess you can see that my post is up now. I looked it up in-game & there is plenty of space for the Hand to take the coastal route & not be seen. I may go back & label it as noonish day 8 or something, but right now I need to get to work.

oh yes, I'm going with the Silvekel alt, that's why the alts are avoiding Jehezekel, they don't know what to expect?

This post has been edited by Jehezekel: 09 February 2010 - 09:48 AM

YAKS is now on day eight, morning-afternoon.

What I've posted is only the introduction. I'm doing this because the rest of my post spans the rest of the day including the invasion of the city. Which means Go ahead and post what you want in the mean time but keep this in mind (also it'd be cool to get things rolling, I don't know what we're waiting for at this point..):

Yomu is by himself, he's leaving AKS for the moment, he shouldn't run into anyone, until after my last post on this section. He can't be psychically traced because of Firecat's protection (and another's..).

Do not finish the battle in Cademia. I don't think anyone was planning to finish (or even start it..) anytime soon, regardless my post ends as things are getting bad. I don't know how the group (however it forms) will go about protecting the city, but doubt it will be easy and I expect it to last at least a little while.

There was supposed to be more to my post but people keep complaining about the lack of posts lately, so here you go

Trying to get into irc but I'm having connection issues. I'll be without internet for the next few weeks but I have friends who can "account-sit" for me and answer questions through PM (after a few days delay ).

I'm very happy about Shorty's latest post. ^_^

Edit: I've also been meaning to ask, but keep forgetting: A long time ago, wasn't there a 200-reply limit to threads on this forum? And did they have OoC topics back then? :D

This post has been edited by BreadWorldMercy453: 06 March 2010 - 09:21 AM

Yes. That's the historical reason that they roll over to a new Tavern topic every once in a while. My understanding is that on the old UBB boards it was more work on the server to add a post the longer the topic got, and the restriction was removed when they switched to the Invision boards (which was 6 or 7 years ago, I think? Yikes.)

Every time you would edit or add a new post on the old forums, it would have to rewrite the entire topic to file (not very efficient). This would really slow down the server on large threads, like the old 1000+ post Ares bar (which is probably one of the reasons they decided to limit it).

That's interesting and does sound inefficient. I just think it would be silly to be halfway through our second OoC thread for the same TS...
What's the difference, really, between an OoC thread and a spam thread?

I'm not sure I understand the question... aren't people OOC on spam threads too?