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Is it possible that "Nothing" is Omen? Afterall, Omen can shapeshift, but doesn't he constantly watch over you without following you? Or maybe Nothing is Omen's servant...or the real Pelagon? He does have that majormodo scroll-like thing as the portrait border...
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 01:47 PM
Buzzzzy, on Aug 28 2006, 03:34 PM, said:
Is it possible that "Nothing" is Omen? Afterall, Omen can shapeshift, but doesn't he constantly watch over you without following you? Or maybe Nothing is Omen's servant...or the real Pelagon? He does have that majormodo scroll-like thing as the portrait border...
I thought Nothing was indeed the real Pelagon, mostly from the majordomo scroll portrait border.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 02:31 PM
I thought that originally also, but why would Pelagon impersonator then have a weird portrait, and why would Nothing be in every city? I had a few theories for the portrait thing, but as for the cities, it wouldn't make sense. Perhaps "Nothing" is a vision-thing? Like Omen?
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 04:08 PM
What if Omen was the lich, Omen was Tavara, and Omen was Pelagon impersonator? That would be weird...
Or else what if Tavara was the lich, Omen, and Pelagon impersonator?
Or what if Pelagon impersonator was Tavara, Omen, and the lich?
Or what if the lich was Tavara, Omen, and Pelagon impersonator?
In other words, what if everyone was the same person?
Or else what if Tavara was the lich, Omen, and Pelagon impersonator?
Or what if Pelagon impersonator was Tavara, Omen, and the lich?
Or what if the lich was Tavara, Omen, and Pelagon impersonator?
In other words, what if everyone was the same person?
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Posted 11 October 2006 - 08:59 AM
I wrote a few chronicles (a series that I never finished) on who Omen was. I portrayed him a heart stealing evil person that was trying to destroy Alaric to overthrow Cythera.
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 06:08 PM
I always considered him somewhat weak though...a servant or something...unless he is his own master in which he is very evil.
And what do you mean by spawned the ghosts? If you mean the person who destroyed Abydos, that's Tavara, but I doubt it's him because he is definately not anyone's servant or majordomo, and the portrait border is the one only used on majordomos/servants.
And what do you mean by spawned the ghosts? If you mean the person who destroyed Abydos, that's Tavara, but I doubt it's him because he is definately not anyone's servant or majordomo, and the portrait border is the one only used on majordomos/servants.
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Posted 17 October 2006 - 02:51 PM
Yes, I think the old Pelagon is the most likely also. However, why is the new Pelagon's portrait so different? I was thinking perhaps shapeshifting drains power or something, and Pelagon impersonator stopped shapeshifting gradually so that no one would notice. Though other than that wild guess, it's a little confusing. Of course, Nothing could always be some random unfinished character, but why would he be in every city then?
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:57 PM
I speculate that Nothing is probably just one of the bugs that one can find in Cythera.
On a side note, this is probably off-topic, but it occurred to me earlier today. When a seldane is referring to itself, it says "we." This is true of Ur-Sylph, as well. The only Undine in the game are Jinrai's spirit, Omen, and his master's letters. Jinrai refers to herself as "we," but the other two use "I." It is possible that they do this for your convenience, that only some Undine refer to themselves as "we," or that Jinrai adopted "we" for Jhiaxus's purposes. However, what is most curious, is that Ignae is the only element that always refers to itself as "I." Why might Ignae be such in way? This might go better in another topic, if Avatara wishes to split it from this one.
On a side note, this is probably off-topic, but it occurred to me earlier today. When a seldane is referring to itself, it says "we." This is true of Ur-Sylph, as well. The only Undine in the game are Jinrai's spirit, Omen, and his master's letters. Jinrai refers to herself as "we," but the other two use "I." It is possible that they do this for your convenience, that only some Undine refer to themselves as "we," or that Jinrai adopted "we" for Jhiaxus's purposes. However, what is most curious, is that Ignae is the only element that always refers to itself as "I." Why might Ignae be such in way? This might go better in another topic, if Avatara wishes to split it from this one.
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 05:35 PM
Buzzzzy, on Jul 4 2006, 08:19 AM, said:
what exactly is, aside from backstory and Abydos, the point of Tavara in Cythera anyway?
I understand that the Tavara plotline (and possibly others, like Larissa's disappearance) was going to be explored further in Cythera 2. It's a pity it'll probably never see the light of day.
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I understand that the Tavara plotline (and possibly others, like Larissa's disappearance) was going to be explored further in Cythera 2. It's a pity it'll probably never see the light of day.
Indeed, it's especially a pity when one considers that, judging from the longevity of the webboard, that it would probably actually be successful.
On the other hand, these ideas could make for an interesting TS at some point (if it hasn't been done already). . .For that matter, the idea of a Cythera 2 could make for an interesting TS.
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 07:09 PM
Selax, on Oct 18 2006, 09:57 PM, said:
On a side note, this is probably off-topic, but it occurred to me earlier today. When a seldane is referring to itself, it says "we." This is true of Ur-Sylph, as well. The only Undine in the game are Jinrai's spirit, Omen, and his master's letters. Jinrai refers to herself as "we," but the other two use "I." It is possible that they do this for your convenience, that only some Undine refer to themselves as "we," or that Jinrai adopted "we" for Jhiaxus's purposes. However, what is most curious, is that Ignae is the only element that always refers to itself as "I." Why might Ignae be such in way? This might go better in another topic, if Avatara wishes to split it from this one.
It's also possible that Omen and his master don't want you to think weirdly of them if they don't speak normally. Omen's master might be trying to convince you that he's human, though the fact that Omen didn't shapeshift into a human contradicts this theory.
Then again, I've always thought of Jinrai as kind of partially seldane. Even though she's not, she is nothing like a normal Undine, and even looks like a seldane.
But hold on, there's another Undine that says "we," I just remembered. When Pelagon impersonator tries to get the crolna from you, he says "we." And why does Magpie speak in third person, saying "Magpie" instead of I or we?
As for Ignae, he has always confused me because both his element species-thing and his name are Ignae. Maybe he says "I" because he is so used to only being one now, perhaps UrSylph knows something that no one else knows about the sylphs...just a thought.
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 04:29 PM
Tavara is probably just like Ignae and UrSylph. You can complete the whole game never knowing about them, but they seem to nonetheless start a major part of the plot if you do pay attention, only to get cut off and never explained.
And is the I and We thing perhaps simply lazy programming?
And is the I and We thing perhaps simply lazy programming?
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 09:04 PM
I remember Vaugly that I did something and Nothing told me (on the log) What time I started the game, How many times I died, and how many people I killed. Strange that I found 3 things no one else even knew about The Mushroom Steak, The Pick Axe, and this .
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Posted 10 November 2006 - 06:50 PM
Are you sure Nothing told you that and you didn't simply activate a debug key? And what about the Mushroom steak?
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Posted 14 November 2006 - 05:08 PM
More accurately actually, you were the first person to point out party members not liking the mushroom steak, as I think a few people already noticed that, though I may be wrong.
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Posted 18 November 2006 - 07:38 PM
Okay, I just tried pressing a bunch of keys next to Nothing with Nothing's thingy open, including modifier keys and caps lock, and suddenly my log updates with a bunch of messages saying things like "Nothing: Odemia ... Nothing: 1023 plays (really?)" and stuff, not exactly what IT 000 said, but similar. He even told me what my karma was (Nothing: karma: 98%). Maybe Nothing was a quick way for beta testers/Glenn to have found out some info.
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 11:52 PM
Mushroom steak? 
And who (or what! dun dun dun) are the Abydos ghosts? I've looked everywhere for them but I never saw them.
I have a theory about all this as well.
Maybe Magpie got bored with eternal life and wanted to test how strong his son was, so he set the whole Omen-Pelagon-Tavara thing up to see if his son could solve it, then it all went wrong and he panicked?
Maybe Omen started to think for himself and got himself a new master? Instead of Magpie, who was his former master? That would explain why he urged Alaric to summon you to Cythera, and why you don't get the answers to all the riddles.
It's probably a stupid theory, but there you have it.
And who (or what! dun dun dun) are the Abydos ghosts? I've looked everywhere for them but I never saw them.
I have a theory about all this as well.
Maybe Magpie got bored with eternal life and wanted to test how strong his son was, so he set the whole Omen-Pelagon-Tavara thing up to see if his son could solve it, then it all went wrong and he panicked?
Maybe Omen started to think for himself and got himself a new master? Instead of Magpie, who was his former master?
That would explain why he urged Alaric to summon you to Cythera, and why you don't get the answers to all the riddles.It's probably a stupid theory, but there you have it.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 02:19 AM
CrazyChick, on Nov 27 2006, 01:52 AM, said:
Mushroom steak?
And who (or what! dun dun dun) are the Abydos ghosts? I've looked everywhere for them but I never saw them.
I have a theory about all this as well.
Maybe Magpie got bored with eternal life and wanted to test how strong his son was, so he set the whole Omen-Pelagon-Tavara thing up to see if his son could solve it, then it all went wrong and he panicked?
Maybe Omen started to think for himself and got himself a new master? Instead of Magpie, who was his former master? That would explain why he urged Alaric to summon you to Cythera, and why you don't get the answers to all the riddles.
It's probably a stupid theory, but there you have it.
And who (or what! dun dun dun) are the Abydos ghosts? I've looked everywhere for them but I never saw them.
I have a theory about all this as well.
Maybe Magpie got bored with eternal life and wanted to test how strong his son was, so he set the whole Omen-Pelagon-Tavara thing up to see if his son could solve it, then it all went wrong and he panicked?
Maybe Omen started to think for himself and got himself a new master? Instead of Magpie, who was his former master?
That would explain why he urged Alaric to summon you to Cythera, and why you don't get the answers to all the riddles.It's probably a stupid theory, but there you have it.
Maybe that's why he won't respond when you ask him about Bahoudin if Alaric is around...
Also, the ghosts appear in Abydos at night, outside. You can mention "Tavara" and they freak out, or "Abydos" and they wave their arms gesturing to the surrounding area. I think they respond to a few other things, but those are the two I remember.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:04 PM
He doesn't want Alaric to know he's half-seldane half-undine, I think.
And yes, the ghosts apear at night, and they respond to Abydos, Demon, Tavara, one of the default ones, I think maybe ghost or dead as well.
And yes, the ghosts apear at night, and they respond to Abydos, Demon, Tavara, one of the default ones, I think maybe ghost or dead as well.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 10:43 PM
O' cool, tanx.
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