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Ok, we all know about my being challenged by Slug to a graphics contest, and if you don't you can find the link here: [url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum13/HTML/000252.html"]http://www.AmbrosiaS...TML/000252.html[/url]
I'm starting this new topic to officialise that yes, this contest does in fact exist between me and Slug. The rules suggested by Mag will be enforced:
We will each put on 7 pictures to display to the Ares community. There are no time constraints to making them, but they are to be your best work. At the end there will be a large vote by all non-participants to determine the winner.
Oh yeah, it's not necesssarily just between me and Slug. Anyone with graphics skill can enter the contest.
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Posted 06 July 2001 - 03:23 AM
Just to toughen up the rules a bit:
-The 7 images MUST all be space ships.
-There must be at least ONE combat image
-The winner recieves 1 karma point
Jolly good, chap! May the best man win!
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-The 7 images MUST all be space ships.
-There must be at least ONE combat image
-The winner recieves 1 karma point
Jolly good, chap! May the best man win!
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Posted 06 July 2001 - 05:32 AM
About voting:
There are 10 possible marks per picture.
Textures: /5
Aesthetics: /5
If it's a fighting picture, the marks are different:
Ships: /5
Special Effects: /5
You can only vote once, but are allowed to change your vote at any time. The contest is decided when one party retains a _clear_ majority.
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There are 10 possible marks per picture.
Textures: /5
Aesthetics: /5
If it's a fighting picture, the marks are different:
Ships: /5
Special Effects: /5
You can only vote once, but are allowed to change your vote at any time. The contest is decided when one party retains a _clear_ majority.
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Posted 06 July 2001 - 10:42 PM
Well, after trying for a while to get my picture so I can load it here, I must report failure.
-Angelfire displayed an 'image' pict, but never seemed to load it.
-Geocities kept saying it was invalid file type, and I'm pretty sure corvette.jpg is valid (yes it was a jpg document)
I think I'll email the files to darkk, who will upload them for me.
-Angelfire displayed an 'image' pict, but never seemed to load it.
-Geocities kept saying it was invalid file type, and I'm pretty sure corvette.jpg is valid (yes it was a jpg document)
I think I'll email the files to darkk, who will upload them for me.
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Posted 07 July 2001 - 01:08 AM
I can't upload it for you, as that would compromise my impartiality.
In any case, CA grabs a 4/5 for texturing and a 4/5 for aestetics.
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In any case, CA grabs a 4/5 for texturing and a 4/5 for aestetics.
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Posted 07 July 2001 - 03:49 AM
Darkk: I hope you will continue your harsh marking with everyone. As far as I'm concerned, that Alien corvette was _perfect_. It's rare for a piece of imagination to come out so exactly in a 3-D model.
Slug: I'll email it to you. Kind of ironic isn't it
Slug: I'll email it to you. Kind of ironic isn't it
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Posted 07 July 2001 - 01:17 PM
Nice texture, if a bit of a simple design
Very nice rendering though, what program was this made in?
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Very nice rendering though, what program was this made in?
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Posted 08 July 2001 - 03:30 PM
I'm waiting untill Pallas Athene gets back to start the contest. In the mean time, I'll be whipping up some mean ships.
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Posted 09 July 2001 - 03:53 PM
Well, I'm still working; I intend on completely revamping the UESG for M:Inv and by the time I'm done with just the drawings I'll have spent well over 8 hours. It'll take at least half as long just to model the 3 ships I've got completed out even with absolute concentration, and I'll never have that. (And these are 3 of the smallest 4 ships)
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"I fail to see the humor in that situation, Doctor."
"Naturally. You could hardly claim to be an angel with those pointed ears, Mister Spock. But say you landed someplace with a pitchforkŅ"
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Posted 11 July 2001 - 11:57 AM
Well, if the contest is still going come the end of summer, I might join in... Otherwise I'll just rate things. The Alien Corvette gets a 3/5 for textures, and a 2/5 for aesthetics. Just so you know, though, I probably use a bit of a different scale from the rest of you. A one (from me) means it's average or worse. A two is nice, well executed, but not inspiring. A three is excellent, but not spectacular. A four is spectacular, and a five is beyond mere spectacular. For comparison, I'd give [url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum56/HTML/000421.html#"]this[/url] a 1/5 for textures, and a 3/5 for aesthetics.
In any case, I have to get back to work now. Sigh.
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Posted 12 July 2001 - 04:02 PM
I'd give it a little higher on Aesthetics... but not on Textures. They look Pfhor
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"I fail to see the humor in that situation, Doctor."
"Naturally. You could hardly claim to be an angel with those pointed ears, Mister Spock. But say you landed someplace with a pitchforkŅ"
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"Once, just once, I'd like to be able to land somewhere and say, 'Behold, I am the Archangel Gabriel.'"
"I fail to see the humor in that situation, Doctor."
"Naturally. You could hardly claim to be an angel with those pointed ears, Mister Spock. But say you landed someplace with a pitchforkŅ"
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Posted 12 July 2001 - 10:53 PM
Who's ship looks like Pfhor?
I think I have to clarify markings a little more - marking something 2/5 means that 60% of it was sh*t. Ok? And we're not marking against your dream ship, we're marking against what you think could be improved in the graphic. The highest and lowest marks for each graphic will not be counted, and you must illustrate clearly the reason for your mark.
I think I have to clarify markings a little more - marking something 2/5 means that 60% of it was sh*t. Ok? And we're not marking against your dream ship, we're marking against what you think could be improved in the graphic. The highest and lowest marks for each graphic will not be counted, and you must illustrate clearly the reason for your mark.
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Posted 12 July 2001 - 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Count Altair El Alemein:
Who's ship looks like Pfhor?
I think I have to clarify markings a little more - marking something 2/5 means that 60% of it was sh*t. Ok? And we're not marking against your dream ship, we're marking against what you think could be improved in the graphic. The highest and lowest marks for each graphic will not be counted, and you must illustrate clearly the reason for your mark.
Who's ship looks like Pfhor?
I think I have to clarify markings a little more - marking something 2/5 means that 60% of it was sh*t. Ok? And we're not marking against your dream ship, we're marking against what you think could be improved in the graphic. The highest and lowest marks for each graphic will not be counted, and you must illustrate clearly the reason for your mark.
*sigh* If all you're going to do is argue about your own rating system, I think we need a new one.
Let's just rate the pictures out of 10 for what their context is for.
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Posted 13 July 2001 - 07:32 AM
Well, if you want an argument... 
If not, feel free to ignore the rest of this post.
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There are two potential problems I see with your rating setup:
one: it is biased against ships that use geometry for detail - such vessels generally have very simple textures, and, if done well, are superior to designs that use textures for detail.
two: it makes it easy to tell the difference between a good and a bad design, but hard to tell the difference between a good and a great design (and I expect most ships in a contest like this to fall into good to great category). If I used your scale, I'd probably end up rating most entries as 4/5, which really doesn't leave much headroom to improve the rating for the occasional truly spectacular vessel.
And actually, it doesn't really matter what rating scale anyone uses, as long as each individual always uses the same scale. The only reason I explained my scale in the first place was so that people wouldn't think a 2 from me meant "60% sh*t", because it most certainly doesn't. And no, I'm not comparing these to some "dream ship" - just to the best ones I've ever seen.
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If not, feel free to ignore the rest of this post.
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There are two potential problems I see with your rating setup:
one: it is biased against ships that use geometry for detail - such vessels generally have very simple textures, and, if done well, are superior to designs that use textures for detail.
two: it makes it easy to tell the difference between a good and a bad design, but hard to tell the difference between a good and a great design (and I expect most ships in a contest like this to fall into good to great category). If I used your scale, I'd probably end up rating most entries as 4/5, which really doesn't leave much headroom to improve the rating for the occasional truly spectacular vessel.
And actually, it doesn't really matter what rating scale anyone uses, as long as each individual always uses the same scale. The only reason I explained my scale in the first place was so that people wouldn't think a 2 from me meant "60% sh*t", because it most certainly doesn't. And no, I'm not comparing these to some "dream ship" - just to the best ones I've ever seen.
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Posted 13 July 2001 - 02:00 PM
Ya know, some people like me are lazy and, in their laziness, wise at times. For instance, instead of having this weird special rating system where we rate every single image submitted to see who won, I would prefer it if at the end of the contest, when everybody's already submitted all of their images, we vote on *gasp* who we think should win the contest! Ya know, sorta like how it's usually done and works pretty much every single time as long as there's no meddling? Whoever gets a majority from the votes wins. Anyway, that's what I suggest.
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Posted 13 July 2001 - 09:21 PM
I think I agree with mag - it's too difficult too even rate all the images and collect these into a total marking thing. Instead, there'll be a general impression at tht end who's was better and that'll be it.
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Posted 26 July 2001 - 08:55 PM
Nice Save!
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Posted 27 July 2001 - 01:43 AM
Hmmmm, something I missed while I was away. Anyway, I'm changing the rules of the contest:
1 Karma point for each person who enters with the full 7 pictures.
Another Karma point for the winner.
By order of Sundered Angel.
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1 Karma point for each person who enters with the full 7 pictures.
Another Karma point for the winner.
By order of Sundered Angel.
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Sundered Angel,
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Posted 27 July 2001 - 12:01 PM
Yes! That makes it so much more worth my while
Although of course there's nothing to stop anyone who wants to from just stopping by and putting in 7 horrible pictures. Why don't you change it to "...enters with all 7 pictures with visible effort shown in their fabrication."?
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"Once, just once, I'd like to be able to land somewhere and say, 'Behold, I am the Archangel Gabriel.'"
"I fail to see the humor in that situation, Doctor."
"Naturally. You could hardly claim to be an angel with those pointed ears, Mister Spock. But say you landed someplace with a pitchforkŅ"
Although of course there's nothing to stop anyone who wants to from just stopping by and putting in 7 horrible pictures. Why don't you change it to "...enters with all 7 pictures with visible effort shown in their fabrication."?
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"Once, just once, I'd like to be able to land somewhere and say, 'Behold, I am the Archangel Gabriel.'"
"I fail to see the humor in that situation, Doctor."
"Naturally. You could hardly claim to be an angel with those pointed ears, Mister Spock. But say you landed someplace with a pitchforkŅ"
