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Success (mostly) Regarding changing the character's picture

#1 User is offline   Selax 

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 03:52 PM

As was briefly discussed here, I've been experimenting with trying to get the character's picture to change and to make the change permanent.

I think that I have succeeded (see below for results), although I can't get the character's portrait to change unfortunately.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 05:02 PM

The title of that image is very fitting. :P

Edit: Oh, and congrats :D That's really cool, I want to try it!

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 07:08 PM

Yays for geeky skills! ^_^ *dances*
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 07:25 PM

Wow that's awsome Selax, good job! By portrait do you mean the picture of yourself in your menu screan?

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 05:25 PM

Thanks, Two Jacks :P . Indeed, I am referring to the menu picture.


It helped when I realized that a character's picture number is not the same thing as the item number (which should have been obvious to me sooner...). I managed this by creating two characters (one female and one male) and then looking for a difference between the number that refers to the male picture and the one that refers to the female picture. Surprisingly, it actually worked. Although many things between the files were different, the picture differences were clustered together and actually quite easy to find.
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Posted 08 December 2007 - 10:55 PM

Now if we were masters of the code, we could create our own stories and characters. Ah well, good job (and find)!

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 01:58 AM

Yes, it is a very nice job. It would be fun to play through the game as Alaric. Pity the portrait can't be changed though.
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 12:30 AM

Thanks, all.

Maybe, someday, I'll get around to sorting out the rest of the graphics and create an Ur-sylph character. It would be really fun to find out how to change the pictures for all party members...
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 01:50 AM

Well, if we could some how change dialog... It must somewhat easy to find dialog code, (I really don't know what I'm talking about here so please bare with me), since there's so much of it in the game. So if we could change hectors sprite ID into say I don't know UrSylph then we could also change the dialog to match the scenario. :P

Though if one could change the dialog this would only be small potatoes.

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 02:55 AM

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 09:44 PM

Hmm, quite interesting.

Playing around as Alaric a bit, I, 453, and Wizard found that the character seemed to be invincible :P .

First, we attacked Demodocus (spelling?) and killed him without getting hurt.

Then, we killed the cook.

We attacked Hector and, when still not getting hurt, attacked Alaric at his court. We still did not get hurt and did not even get any spells cast on us.

Either I changed something and forgot or having Alaric's graphic makes one invincible.
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 10:24 PM

Nice, the Cythera god cheat has finally been found. :P What do I need to do this?

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 01:45 AM

Forget God mode; LandKing mode all the way baby!

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 07:35 AM

POWERS!!! ^_^
but I wonder what UrSylph mode would be like...
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 04:36 PM

I haven't found Ur-Sylph's graphic yet, mostly because I haven't really been looking lately :P . I'll probably try and duplicate the results with the Alaric graphic by trying it with a new character.
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 05:48 PM

I'm curious as to if changing the graphic itself messed things up, or if it was specifically Alaric's graphic. Of course, I can't test this for myself, because I don't know how ;)
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:29 PM

I'm not sure. I created a new character and gave him the Alaric graphic. Using him, I cleared out the abandoned farmhouse (and was unhurt by the spike trap even though I crossed it multiple times).

Then, I attacked the students at Pnyx. They were able to paralyze, terrify, and confuse the character (although he just stood still); however, they used up all their magic firing Mystic Arrows at him and then resorted to barehand attacks.

Thus, I think it's safe to say that the character is at least mostly invincible.


To change the character's graphic, I simply change three bytes (one of which controls the picture of the character in the party bar). I wonder if one of these also controls some properties associated with the character?


(This character was a mage, and the first was an explorer. Should I try to upload both the addons page?)


EDIT:
In an attempt to answer to your question, 453, I tried to attack Hector with Hebe's graphic and got killed. I have yet to try it with anyone else though.
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Posted 17 December 2007 - 10:43 AM

Thankies, Sely ^_^

So we've discovered the secret to invincibility! Looking like Alaric! Now let's test it out in real life: Sely, dress up like Alaric and jump off a cliff ^_~

*Nervous* Please don't ban me. <3
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:57 AM

Don't worry: it's Avatara's turn to ban you today :P !
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 03:49 PM

Very interesting find Selax

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 07:11 PM

Thanks ;) .


I haven't found Ur-Sylph, although I did manage to turn myself into a throne :P ...
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 01:58 PM

Is it possible to change your teamates graphics? I'd think it'd be cool to have a Igneas and the Saldane guy fallowing you around while you are UrSylph. :P
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 02:58 PM

Can you turn yourself into Omen?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:16 PM

Not as far as I know, but I haven't tried everything yet.

To be honest, I only work on this from time to time. To my annoyance, people images are not all consecutive and, between groups of them (which do seem to follow a pattern), are item images.


IT 000, I haven't tried that yet, but I'll get around to it at some point :P .
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Posted 15 January 2008 - 04:10 PM

Haha that is so awesome.

Sometime I'll go roaming around as a demon and kill everybody. :P

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