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#1 User is offline   moonunit4eva 

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:09 AM

Ya...ok...so...boys...majority here...would you rather marry a virgin..or someone experienced?

Virgin-Nicer..right? and, what I always told people. "Well, if you're a virgin, then when you get married, you'd have to make up for all those years of..not being one."

Experienced-No problems on wedding night, just nothing to worry about.

I dunno...Help?

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:12 AM

Move back to the B&B where this topic belongs.

As for the question, would depend on myself. Posted Image

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:15 AM

I just want some honest answers here.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:17 AM

Virgin. It'd be sort of weird knowing you weren't the first person to sleep with that woman. Sure, I could get over it in time - but that memory would always exist for her.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:18 AM

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I just want some honest answers here.



What Avatara said.^^

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:18 AM

Okay, you want it changed, you got it.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:19 AM

How old are you guys?

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:20 AM

I seriously dislike the institution of marriage in nearly all of its forms. We are an advanced society, we should be past trivial crap like marriage.

That said, I really wouldn't care about whether or not my hypothetical wife was a virgin as it really shouldn't matter; the moronic ritual shouldn't rely on actions (past or present), it should rely on the greater concept of "love."

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:20 AM

Old enough to know better. Posted Image

That's a quote from a book. Kudos to the person who knows it.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:26 AM

Well, me being catholic and all...you're not supposed to engage in pre-marital sex. But, then again, I don't want an awful wedding night.

I'm not thinking of doing it now..just for people Ik now.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:32 AM

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Virgin.  It'd be sort of weird knowing you weren't the first person to use that woman.



Avatara, put a wink in there. Or better yet, delete it altogether. You have better taste in humour than that.


I really don't care if the girl I'm marrying is a virgin or not. What a girl has chosen to do with her body is her own damn business, and I don't think it's part of the criteria any guy should be assessing her on.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:34 AM

You know, I was being serious for once, and I did not mean it in that way at all - which is why I didn't think of that interpretation.

And you quoting it kind of makes editing it somewhat pointless, don't you think? Same with dude.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:35 AM

I think you're putting more meaning on Avatara's quote than is needed, SA. I personally didn't interpret it that way.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:56 AM

Well, think of it as a quick lesson. You should never talk about "using" a person. That's objectification. If you talk about "using" a woman, you'll have feminists jumping down your throat in an instant - as you just found out. Posted Image

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:45 AM

I think SA has it right. If a woman has slept with one, two, or however many people it shouldn't matter, as long as they only are sleeping with you once you are married to said person.

That being said, what about guys? Anyone here who wants a virgin wife, Would you engage in pre-marital sex? If so then you're nothing but an idiot.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:07 PM

Guys can do whatever they want.

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Oh oops I almost forgot: Posted Image (j/k)
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Posted 10 November 2003 - 06:42 PM

I don't really know what to think about guys. I'd rather have a virgin guy personally. If I was a virgin. but, if I wasn't a virgin, I'd appreciate someone who's more experienced. But yes, as long as they don't cheat when married.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 07:12 PM

SA: if it bothered you so much, why didn't you just edit it out (especially the quoted content)? You've done that in other cases with far less reason.

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That being said, what about guys? Anyone here who wants a virgin wife, Would you engage in pre-marital sex? If so then you're nothing but an idiot.


I won't base my marital decisions based on virginity alone, I thought µ was asking which one we prefer.

If I wasn't a virgin when I marry, I wouldn't discount a possible wife just because they weren't a virgin.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 07:49 PM

Ok, well, I'm asking about both then. Which do you prefer? and I guess..what are your standards for finding a wife? Along with the virginity thing.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:29 AM

It doesn't bother me so much, Avatara, it merely represents a way of thinking which, when you boil it down to its roots, is selfish. Whether her first memory is of you shouldn't matter so much as whether her first memory is a happy one.


What do I find attractive? Beauty and intelligence, mostly. If a girl has just intelligence, I won't be attracted to her as more than a friend. If a girl just has sex appeal, I'll only be attracted to that. But if a girl has both - particularly if she's smarter than I am - I have a tendency to fall. Hard.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:35 AM

Ok, so looks are important.

Crap..I'm doomed Posted Image

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:42 AM

Maybe. More likely not. A lot of girls have self-image issues which aren't actually rooted in reality.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 12:51 AM

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Ok, so looks are important.

Crap..I'm doomed   Posted Image



Shut Up...you are so much prettier than me...so shut up...

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 01:04 AM

I know I'll find the right guy. I just don't want to dissapoint him. In ANY way. That's why I need the advice.

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:07 AM

I'm too old for virgins. Seriously, I'm pretty far removed from high school, and it won't be too long until I'm removed from college as well. Most women I meet are not virgins, and if I was in a situation to have sex with someone who is, I'd kind of wonder if I am really the guy she wants to have her first time with.

Extend the question to marriage, and I would certainly not marry a virgin, because I am not compatible with a person who would not have sex before marriage. If I were ever to marry someone, it would mean having a really solid relationship first, and that would mean a sexual relationship as well. I'm not Christian, or any other faith, and waiting for sex until marriage is not something I was raised to believe in.

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