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Posted 31 July 2005 - 10:06 PM

It seems to me that it works best if the person who starts the TS acts as a TS Master, making sure that the plot is behaving OK, and moving the story along when it starts getting bogged down. Unfortunately for the current TS, DF couldn't stay.

I think that either Avatara or Selax should take over the position of TSM for the remainder of the current TS. Selax has been more present, but Avatara is good at tying everything together and moving it on.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 04:25 PM

Letsiya already did turn evil. She just hasn't quite come to terms with it yet :P

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:47 AM

I am not sure how often people check the forums but a discussion would probably help the TS's out a great deal, there is one for the current one at the moment but nothing really has been discussed on it, basically everything was talked about over IRC.

Doing something to ACTUALLY do with Cythera would be good. At the moment the TS's are kind of based on Cythera but its just used as a source of some information, if we each basically played the roles of some of the actual characters from Cythera it would make a totally different TS all together.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 12:53 PM

Half Truth, on Aug 4 2005, 12:47 AM, said:

I am not sure how often people check the forums but a discussion would probably help the TS's out a great deal, there is one for the current one at the moment but nothing really has been discussed on it, basically everything was talked about over IRC.


Nope, no IRC discussions in over five or six months.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 12:38 AM

I thought Selax said that him (Selax), you (Avatara), DF and others were talking about it over IRC, I must had misread or something like that.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 10:12 PM

Originally. If you look at the story you can pick up easily where that stopped, as everything sort of fell apart.

The original intent of the thread on here was to share ideas with those that didn't use IRC, which it did to a really small extent.
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Posted 06 August 2005 - 11:55 PM

Having a thread to discuss the TS is all well and good but it takes a long time to get anything substancial discussed. Most good ideas dont come up by themselves, they usually come about from talking as a group and a forum is a slow way to do it, it gets the job done in the end but takes quite a lot longer.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 03:09 PM

So what we should do about the TSs?
Does anyone have any other ideas or should we try something the list I posted earlier?
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 04:51 PM

It would probably be easier for people to post something that a little more relevent to Cythera, means people don't have to think of a storyline to follow because it alrealy laid out.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 02:38 AM

Several people have expressed some interest in bringing back the idea where each person would play a character in a power struggle to save the land. The rules need some refinement and balancing though, but its something to look into.

I'm not so sure if the focus would be on storywriting or "playing the game" either.
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Posted 18 August 2005 - 06:43 PM

Selax, on Jul 30 2005, 06:43 PM, said:

1.  We could do a TS based more closely on Cythera, as it is seen in the game.
2.  We could do a TS with all our characters completely different than they are in other stories.  The idea behind this is that something caused Cythera and all its inhabitants (including the heroes) to have been twisted and altered in various ways in the past.  Some heroes would have become villains, and some villains would have become heroes.  Example: Selax could be an evil entity with magical powers bent on ruling Cythera (which would be completely different than in any of the stories or the game).
3.  Cythera could be invaded by alternate Cythera.  This would something like the above idea; however, instead of themselves being twisted, the heroes would have to fight twisted versions of themselves from the alternate Cythera.
4.  As has been suggested before, we could do a TS where everyone but one person is a villain, and they have to defeat the hero.
5.  We could jump Cythera either into the past or future for one or more TSs.
6.  We could also try doing a sequel to some TS already written.
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Sorry, I haven't really responded to the suggestions yet. So I will now.

1. While I like the general idea, I don't believe that it would require a whole TS based solely on the way we see Cythera in the game. I think that we should just try to incorporate little parts of this in our posts in normal TS's. Then all the TS's would be more Cythera-like, but not too much so. I hope that what I'm trying to say is clear.

Now, if we did a TS based on the politics of Cythera, i.e. the houses' struggle for power and their various assassinations and the like, that would be a TS to be based very closely on Cythera. If that's what the suggestion was and I just misunderstood it, then my first paragraph is irrelevant.

2. I like this one a lot. It would let us play around with our characters more. For example, Wizard could be a heartless, raving lunatic who loved to kill people. While some might ask, "I thought he already was". . .

It would also allow to make the TS's more humorous.

3. This is a good one, too. Only it could be funnier.

4. Hmm, seems similar to #2 in my opinion, but it would give us a better chance to end the TS with evil as the victor, which could be an interesting change.

5. That's another idea I like. I'd suggest that we do it a little later, however.

6. Good suggestion. We'd just have to find an old one that is set up for a sequel that would be interesting.

Those are my views. Any more suggestions or opinions?
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 12:45 AM

OK, I'm new to this board, so bear with me. I've just discovered Cythera on the disk that I got when I registered Nova, having become bored with that game. Wanting to learn more, I naturally came here.

I guess that makes me the "new blood" that you regular members here are interested in attracting. I love RPG's, and since I've not played this one, I'm interested in it. Trouble is, there's almost nothing on your board to entice new members to stay. I've read the FAQ, pinned topics etc., gleaning the information therein. Aside from that, and the post from another "nOOb" (which did contain valuable information) there was precious little to learn.

I'll ask questions as I think of them (starting with the posted poll), and I'll apologize in advance for asking questions/posting polls that you've all probably seen a thousand times.

Suggestions:

Has anyone found a link to Slayer's guide that seems to be o.o.c.? If not, are there any plans to create a new one? (I realize that's a MAJOR undertaking, but it would help)

Is it within a moderator's power to "reactivate" old topics that might help new members, and if so, are those topics available?

Are there sites other than the FAQ and this forum that players could receive information from?

Eventually, I'd like to get into development of add-ons and such. But to do so, I have got to get a grasp of the basic game first.

Anyway, thanks for hearing me out.

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Posted 20 August 2005 - 08:10 PM

Avatara, on Aug 14 2005, 07:38 AM, said:

Several people have expressed some interest in bringing back the idea where each person would play a character in a power struggle to save the land.  The rules need some refinement and balancing though, but its something to look into.
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Could you elaborate on this idea? I'm not quite sure what you mean.

Flyboy, on Aug 19 2005, 05:45 AM, said:

Has anyone found a link to Slayer's guide that seems to be o.o.c.? If not, are there any plans to create a new one? (I realize that's a MAJOR undertaking, but it would help)


Funny you should mention that. A link to an operational version has just been found. For more information, see the Slayer's Guide topic.

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Is it within a moderator's power to "reactivate" old topics that might help new members, and if so, are those topics available?


All of our old topic are available to be looked at any time. If you find a topic that is helpful, but you still have a question reguarding, I recommend that you post a new topic with a link to the old one.

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Are there sites other than the FAQ and this forum that players could receive information from?


You could look under the Web Links section of Cythera. Most of those sites, if not all, are probably no more. We're hoping to get Slayer's Guide back soon, though.

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Eventually, I'd like to get into development of add-ons and such. But to do so, I have got to get a grasp of the basic game first.


In case you don't know, there does not seem to be an editor for Cythera. So add-ons are sparse.

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 05:40 PM

Flyboy, on Aug 19 2005, 11:45 PM, said:

Trouble is, there's almost nothing on your board to entice new members to stay.

What would you find enticing?

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I've read the FAQ, pinned topics etc., gleaning the information therein. Aside from that, and the post from another "nOOb" (which did contain valuable information) there was precious little to learn.

Most of the in-game questions were probably asked about five times at some point in time, if you do a search, but that was a long time ago - so they've fallen off of the first [couple of] page[s]. Pinning all of them would make a horrible mess out of the board, so oftentimes just posting a new topic will result in someone finding an answer and posting it. Cythera is detailed, but also old, so the influx of people asking questions is rather low.

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Is it within a moderator's power to "reactivate" old topics that might help new members, and if so, are those topics available?

What do you mean by "reactivate"? Someone could bump all of the old topics that might be potentially useful, but given there's a wide variety of subjects and questions that were asked, it'd probably be a four or five page topic list to sift through potentially useful topics. It seems a bit easier to just ask questions, and not necessarily how to beat a certain part, feel free to ask how something in the game works.

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Eventually, I'd like to get into development of add-ons and such. But to do so, I have got to get a grasp of the basic game first.

There is no add-on machine, like with EV, which is unfortunate, and also why its a bit hard to keep people around. A couple of people managed to hack the code enough to do minor things (like change the mouse cursor), but no significant content plug-ins, aside from anything gandreas decides to release.

The Wizard, on Aug 20 2005, 07:10 PM, said:

You could look under the Web Links section of Cythera.  Most of those sites, if not all, are probably no more.  We're hoping to get Slayer's Guide back soon, though.

I don't think that site has been updated in years. Especially since the "main cythera page" points to delver.com, which redirects to the new ambrosia homepage, rather than the actual cythera game page. (which can be found at games/cythera)

There might still be a way to update that (I'm not sure due to the permissions changes that came with the boards, add-ons are a mess) if someone has new sites to add.

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This thing. I think it'd work if it was adjusted to be more of a multiplayer Cythera simulation, and probably if combat was deemphasized a bit more.

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 07:16 PM

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What would you find enticing?


Slayer's guide has been reactivated, so that's a huge help. But I must confess, a part of the problems I had early on were due to a rookie mistake. I had set my preferences for the Nova board to show responses from only the last 30 days (more than enough, given that forum's response rate). When I came here, it showed only about a dozen topics ( and only one page), none of which were helpful to a new player. I assume my searches were also scanning only 30 days back, for they came up with nothing as well. I just figured that at some point, the older posts dropped off the board. Hence the request to "reactivate" old topics.

However, now that I've pulled my head out, things have gotten much better. My sincere and humble apologies.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 07:51 PM

Shadow Games is now finished.
What do we next?
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 04:55 PM

I wonder if anyone knows where everyone seems to have gone. Everything seemed to be doing fine until it hit holidays a while back and then it seems that no one came back from them.
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 11:52 PM

Holidays back in spring.

This board needs something worthwhile to keep people coming back to it. The million dollar question is: what would be interesting enough?
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Posted 10 September 2005 - 04:58 PM

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 08:46 PM

To Everyone:
PLEASE keep posting and offering opinions.
The problem will never get solved, if we don't do something about it.

What would interest you and others to keep posting on the Cythera Web Board?


I think if more people posted more often it would help. One might not get too interested in something where posts are few and far between.
But please offer opinions and ideas.
We need to do something about this problem.

I am going to try starting two other topics.
One will discuss a possible timeline for Cythera (as some have said would be a good idea).
The other will discuss the Death King (my attempt at a constant villain for Cythera) and possibly making some major changes to him.
Some used to say that a constant villain might help Cythera, does it?
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 08:19 AM

Everyone changing their avatars to dancing, naked chicks would do it. You'd probably get 98% of the Nova board over in no time flat.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 01:09 PM

I see you've already taken your own advice to heart. :P
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Posted 26 September 2005 - 07:02 PM

Ok, so a Cytheran timeline doesn't seem to be what people would be interested in.
More suggestions, please?

(I guess we could try a completely random TS where people make it up as they go along, so long as they respect other people's characters...)
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Posted 26 September 2005 - 11:27 PM

That's what all the others are, mostly. 95% of stuff is made up as the story goes along.
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 04:17 PM

There was going to be some planning behind this latest one from what I can remember but it must not have gotten too far.
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