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Me want Cythera X! Garr! Krug eat you!!

#1 User is offline   Astrochess 

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 09:17 PM

MUST MAKE CARBONIZED! ME WANT CYTHERA X!!!!!! :P
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Post icon  Posted 14 September 2004 - 09:59 PM

Gaaa!!! This topic has been gravediged TWICE now! IF there is ever a Cythrsa X (or cythera 2 for that matter) then follow the golden ambrosia rule:

IT WILL BE READY WHEN ITS READY
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 10:58 PM

The topic in question is as follows: http://www.ambrosias...?showtopic=6605
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 11:26 PM

I suspect now that Andrew was just showing off Classihack, rather than a carbonised Cythera.
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 08:30 AM

It absolutely does exist, but it hasn't been completed - it was even mostly playable.

However, it used two libraries that have changed signficantly since then (and their older versions weren't able to run natively under X).

One of the underlying requirements for Cythera 1.X was that it uses the same data file (because otherwise I'd have to also port the editor which would be a major amount of work, not to mention it made a nice clean demarcation between "make a native version" and "add enhancements" since the latter leads to something that would never get completed). Saddly, those library changes are at odds with this requirement.

And no, I don't feel like going into more details. And yes, a wide variety of options have been considered, so please don't post "well, have you thought about doing...". And finally no, it is not release-able "as is" (so any begging, whining, threatening, etc... will just result in this topic being locked and/or earning my displeasure).

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 10:58 AM

Well, I guess that leaves one question - are you still hoping to finish it? Or is it determined that these library changes will make Cythera X impossible to complete?

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 02:16 PM

gandreas, on Sep 17 2004, 01:30 AM, said:

It absolutely does exist, but it hasn't been completed
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There's hope, there's hope, there's hope! (Drat, no w00t smiley.)

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 09:31 AM

Pallas Athene, on Sep 16 2004, 10:58 AM, said:

Well, I guess that leaves one question - are you still hoping to finish it? Or is it determined that these library changes will make Cythera X impossible to complete?
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I'm hoping for many things. Among other things, I'm hoping to avoid the slippery slope of "well, since I have to redo this, why don't I also redo that, and add that (since I'm already changing this), and that..."

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Post icon  Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:45 PM

:P Cythera X ;)

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 08:14 PM

cache22, on Sep 15 2004, 04:26 AM, said:

I suspect now that Andrew was just showing off Classihack, rather than a carbonised Cythera.
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What's Classihack? :P

To ~vIsitor~: I'm sorry. I must've clicked the "New Topic" button instead of "Add Reply".

And to gandreas, why isn't Cythera X on the "Upcoming" page? I want to be able to track the development.
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Posted 21 September 2004 - 08:28 PM

Astrochess, on Sep 22 2004, 01:14 PM, said:

What's Classihack? :PView Post
A little hack Ambrosia put out that turned on drop-shadows in the Classic environment. I never tried it, since it carried dire warnings of crashes if the resolution was changed (and since no Classic application I know of copes properly with a 1440x900 size screen, res changes are a given.)
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 09:08 AM

cache22, on Sep 22 2004, 01:28 AM, said:

A little hack Ambrosia put out that turned on drop-shadows in the Classic environment. I never tried it, since it carried dire warnings of crashes if the resolution was changed (and since no Classic application I know of copes properly with a 1440x900 size screen, res changes are a given.)
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Aha. Thanks.

Gandreas, why isn't Cythera in the "Upcoming" section of this site? I want to know!

... Or have the progress logs been stopped? none of them have been updated since 3/31/04!
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