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The next part of the playthrough is up--here and here. In this portion, I dealt with Opheltius's murder. I also gave the harpy egg to Pheres (I didn't recall that he interrupted class to speak with you if you found him there). I then visited Kosha and entered the grotto. I retrieved the final crolna shard and analyzed the process of making kesh.

Selax, on 16 October 2014 - 05:06 PM, said:

Oops, yeah, Maayti. It's not so much that you don't have the route memorized, as you kept going back & forth, back & forth, stared at one of your followers going through the hidden path, went back and forth some more...

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Don't ask me why, but the more you haggle down his prices, the higher he'll offer you for your gems. He'll still only offer you half of what he sells them for though, at best.

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I'm not into the spear either, I'm too lazy to pick it up after every throw; but in this case, I think it would have saved you time.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 16 October 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

For someone who complains about how I cheat people in the game, you sure seem to know a lot about how to do it .

I don't think the spear usually accomplishes any real damage before sticking to it target, so I'm inclined to doubt any time saving would be significant.



The next part of the playthrough is uploaded. In this segment, I completed an errand in Kosha (453 will probably find it most heinous). I spoke to Sacas at Odemia to complete the kesh quest before going to meet with Sabinate. After that, I went to Pnyx to get the quest to speak with Charax, but I couldn't remember the correct dialogue prompt ("wine" I recall now). Fortunately, I had the Timeflux book, so he spoke to my anyway. While waiting on him, I returned to LKH, finished training in defense, and then headed for the First Stronghold.

The next part of the playthrough is up. In this section, I made my way through the first stronghold. I ended up having to refight one lich due to my followers tendency to wander further than they should. The battle with the daemon was somewhat tedious, but I did manage to kill it without losing any of my assistants.

The next part of the playthrough is available--here and here. In this segment, I entered the second stronghold. Initially, things went fairly well, but the battle with the daemons proved most troublesome. Unfortunately, for some reason, my followers were far less effective in this combat than usual and were fonder of dying than they should have been. At the end of the video, I succeeded in killing three daemons. The last apparently froze, making it easy to kill him...and then the game froze, forcing me to try again in the next segment, which, incidentally, is also the last video in the playthrough.

Nooooo, it's almost over! ;_; Despair!

Well, the last part of the playthrough has been uploaded--here and here. In this segment, reverting the game produced a bug and placed me back in the forest, since I no longer had the ring on. I decided to make a quick trip to LKH for healing and returned to fight the last daemon…who promptly destroyed Timon from range and forced me to reload the game. However, since I was wearing the ring this time, the save functioned properly, and I (after losing Timon again) finally killed the daemon. I made a quick trip to LKH to recover and returned to deal with Tavara. After that, I spoke to Charax and purified the Crolna. I went to LKH and cured Alaric, ending the game.

Selax, on 20 October 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

I might note that killing Timon doesn't force you to revert to saved :P You could've used your Amulet or the Resurrection spell.

Anyway, watching (and complaining about) these videos was so much fun! Thank you Sely ^_^ It's so sad that the series is over!

BreadWorldMercy453, on 20 October 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

I don't like using the Amulet. I guess I could try the Resurrection spell, although I generally don't need it.

I think the only reason you watched the videos was to complain , but you're welcome anyway.


Now, for my responses to 453's youtube comments:

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Some kind of bug, I assume.

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It's not my fault he's a heavy sleeper .

Is there something wrong with closing the door?

I assumed Charax needed a couple of days; hence, I gave him a couple of days.

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Do you go through the strongholds without sleeping? It makes it a lot more survivable.

You might be correct about the pre-set AI. I've used such things before, but I don't usually find them to be necessary. In this particular game, my followers were nearly useless.

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Thanks…I think .

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I don't usually find sharpening the swords any further to be necessary. They usually work with one sharpening. As I said, my followers were far less useful than usual. My own character was also a worse aim than usual. I suspect I usually get one or two more levels before reaching this point, but I'm not certain.

Unlike you, some of us have not memorized every detail about the game, so, no, I didn't recall that about daemons in this case.

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I don't tend to use death strike as an offensive spell (although I suppose I might try it in the future), and I'm not getting drawn into another debate about the scrolls .

I teleported out because Aethon was almost dead and several others were wounded. It seemed prudent.

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Thank you : I'm pleased to know that you enjoyed it…although it's hard to tell around the numerous complaints . I'm pleased that someone watched it anyway. Hopefully, someone else will do so at some point.

I might upload more videos in the future, such as hacking exploits or town massacres (just to horrify you).

Selax, on 22 October 2014 - 05:22 PM, said:

Surely I really enjoyed complaining :D I'd say half the fun was watching them and half the fun was complaining about them ^_^ I would've watched them even if for some reason I couldn't complain about them. In the end, it doesn't really matter that you didn't play the game the same way I would've - you beat the game and completed the side-quests. And I got to re-live the best computer game ever and learn several new things about it!

Here's my completed (unless I forgot something) list of Things I Learned About Cythera From Watching Sely's Playthrough:

• You can Death Strike magically locked doors to destroy them.
  
• You can apparently sleep in an NPC's bed all night by closing their door before going to sleep.
  
• Atymnius has breakfast with House Attis.
  
• You can get to the iron mine through the trees and probably bypass the ruffians.
  
• You can give Eudoxus's kidnapping note to Halos by telling him "note."
  
• In the second Tyrant's tomb, you can steal the coffer (which will drop the portcullis), drop it, and steal it again to open the portcullis.
  
• It is possible (though unlikely) to cure poisoning with an unguent even if the person on whom it is used is not at full HP.
  
• There is a secret passage to a small, empty room under Abydos in the passageway to the demon-guarded Book of Wisdom.
  
• Larisa will leave while the player is still in the Khalkis swamp, presumably as soon as she's out of Omen's-map-range.
  
• Characters/monsters will often seem to be halfway between two tiles when the preferences are set to "better quality" (or half/half) instead of "better performance."

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So that's justification for burglarizing and vandalizing his home?

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No, just wondering if there was some reason I was unaware of.

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Oh. I'm pretty sure I've given him the book, kelp, & mushroom all in the same visit before.

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I don't typically sleep at all, though I'm a lot quicker than you are to Directed Nexus and get Alaric to heal me, if things aren't going my way.

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I thought followers were supposed to be useless, which is why I dedicate more of my training to my own Attack.

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That's good to know, I don't know if I ever bothered sharpening a sword just once.

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I might be wrong, but at that point, it didn't seem like you'd have any trouble finishing off the stronghold. All you had left were the two golems (not much of a challenge), and Tavara, who doesn't fight back.

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Of course I enjoyed, I'd've gotten bored of complaining about it if I didn't enjoy it! :D Also, your videos seem to have several "views" and at least one "like" besides mine, so I must not be the only one who's watched them? I don't know how much trouble this would be, but I think it would be cool if you could put all the Cythera Playthrough videos in a "playlist" so that if someone wants to watch the series, YouTube will automatically take them to the next video at the end of each video. Maybe that's not worth the trouble.

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That would be so awesome!! I'm totally down for any Cythera videos! :D

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

I second this suggestion. Playlists are handy.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Ironically, my major use for Death Strike has long been destroying doors, and I'm prone to forgetting its an offensive spell.

I'm not certain about NPCs and closing doors. I think I just found an abandoned house.

I think my settings are midway between better quality and better performance.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Well, he's also clearly a phony: he couldn't tell I was selling him his own rubies. Thus, he can't be a real jeweler.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

So, you badger Alaric at all hours of the day and night?

And you call my actions "despicable" !

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

There were also still undead on the perimeter, I think.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Some of those views are mine checking for comments (usually yours) and/or making certain that the video uploaded correctly.

Here is the playthrough organized as a playlist. It's longer than I thought.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 22 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

That sounds a lot like your approval regarding massacring the NPCs .

Selax, on 23 October 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

I checked it out when I was experimenting with the skills in the game. The house belonged to someone, I forget whom - maybe Periphas?

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Yeah, I keep mine on Better Performance, because I'm impatient. (I even have the Menu Patch on Miss Shinjy and have speeded up the Better Performance to the maximum.) When playing it this way, single-tile sprites never appear to be on more than one tile.

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Well, there is that...

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I think you're making it sound worse than it is... I don't seek his help that often :\ (Unless I'm replicating something)

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Yay, thanks! ^_^

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I don't mean to approve of that exactly, but I'd watch any Cythera video you post.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 23 October 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

Did you check what happens at other houses? I think I've been kicked out of beds even with the doors closed.

BreadWorldMercy453, on 23 October 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

Actually, I think I'm making it sound better. After all, I didn't point out that you're forcing Alaric to use his waning powers, just so you can avoid sleeping .

BreadWorldMercy453, on 23 October 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

You're welcome .

BreadWorldMercy453, on 23 October 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

That sounds just like complete approval to me!

So, which town do you want to see have its NPCs massacred ?

Selax, on 26 October 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

No, I haven't experimented with it - but I did try sleeping in Periphas' bed with the door open, and wasn't kicked out. So perhaps this is unique to Periphas, or maybe it's unique to characters who wake up at 5am or get less than a certain amount of sleep?

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Hey, at least I get him cured way faster my way :P He had to wait around for weeks in your playthrough! (Though I did appreciate that you avoided wandering around when it was dark out, since it was a little harder to follow what was going on when it was dark.)

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Hmm... How about Abydos?

BreadWorldMercy453, on 27 October 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

It might also just be unique to this character. Does he go to bed at nights?

BreadWorldMercy453, on 27 October 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

At least, I didn't almost kill him by needlessly forcing him to drain his powers .

BreadWorldMercy453, on 27 October 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

So, you want every town to become like Abydos? You must hate all of the NPCs!

Selax, on 27 October 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

He does. My notes are upstairs, so I don't remember what time, but I'm pretty sure he gets up at 5am to start his dough. Few characters in the game get up that early.

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No, I want to see if you can (with cheating, if necessary) kill the Abydos ghosts :P

BreadWorldMercy453, on 27 October 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

Well, I should be able to set their status to dead in hexedit, but I don't know how that will affect the game.

Unfortunately, I'm a little too busy just now to experiment with this, although I'll make an effort to get around to it.