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Who will win? I had to ask

Poll: Who will Win? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will Win?

  1. George W. Bush (18 votes [47.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.37%

  2. John Kerry-(I wanted to give the full name, but I don't know it all) (20 votes [52.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.63%

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#51 User is offline   Azeroth 

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 09:27 AM

Well, the results are in-ish. GG Kerry, no RM.
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 09:58 AM

I'll see you in Canada.
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:13 AM

Avatara, on Nov 3 2004, 12:37 AM, said:

Interesting how some news stations brag about being more cautious, like CNN, then they turn around and predict state outcomes before the polls close. (such as with Alaska)  Sure it is likely to turn out that way, but isn't that jumping the gun.

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A number of precincts in Alaska close early by benefit of everyone in said precinct (Alaska's population is roughly only the size of greater Albuquerque and Rio Rancho put toghether, some precincts are very small in terms of numbers up there) having voted and those statistics being up prior to the polls officially closing. Alaska generally closes with 60% of the precincts having already reported so a projection is usually possible immediately.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 12:44 PM

Would've been more apparent if they had actually shown the numbers rather than "Bush takes Alaska: 0 votes to 0 votes with 0% of the precincts reporting".

Oh well, didn't get my presidential candidate, but at least my state's ballot issues went in a very favorable direction.
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 03:32 PM

Obama '08.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 08:29 PM

No, Hillary '08. :P
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Posted 04 November 2004 - 12:55 AM

Pufer predicts: Clinton/Richardson versus Dole/McCain in '08. Another terrible choice.

What Pufer would prefer: Howard Dean/Zell Miller vs Bob Dole/Jeb Bush. A win/win situation all around, but, unfortunately, involving two individuals solidly retired from politics.

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Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:13 AM

Avatara, on Nov 3 2004, 05:44 PM, said:

Oh well, didn't get my presidential candidate, but at least my state's ballot issues went in a very favorable direction.
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You're lucky. Not a single of the issues went the way I wanted in my state, even the ones that I really thought would pass...
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Posted 05 November 2004 - 07:25 PM

Sadly we now have no wildlife protection. Yipee!
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Posted 16 November 2004 - 06:20 PM

I'm getting tired of thinking that I have'nt read this topic, and I go to read the last post...and every time I read the same thing...EVERY TIME!
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Posted 16 November 2004 - 08:01 PM

So...why do you keep reading it?
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Posted 16 November 2004 - 08:44 PM

She has no choice, Maruk rules all.
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Posted 17 November 2004 - 12:51 AM

Pah. Maruk is overrated anyway.

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Posted 18 November 2004 - 06:32 PM

Because I don't realize that I've read it. I can be forgetful.
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 06:39 PM

Well after some careful deliberation, I've decided that I think John Kerry will win.
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 06:42 PM

hee hee
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 07:21 PM

He certainly should have, this just shows how dumb most of the country is.
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 08:31 PM

Which is why I am moving of this country. Seriously.
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Posted 18 November 2004 - 11:07 PM

The Journalist, on Nov 18 2004, 06:21 PM, said:

He certainly should have, this just shows how dumb most of the country is.
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It could, of course, just mean that most of the people in the country are vastly more wealthy than you, don't want higher income taxes, but do want tax breaks for their large corporations (you damn peasant :P ). Hey, it's every bit as likely as Bush gaining all of his votes from folks who are exceptionally unintelligent, as you'd lead us to believe.

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 01:49 AM

Pufer, on Nov 19 2004, 04:07 AM, said:

It could, of course, just mean that most of the people in the country are vastly more wealthy than you, don't want higher income taxes, but do want tax breaks for their large corporations (you damn peasant :P ). Hey, it's every bit as likely as Bush gaining all of his votes from folks who are exceptionally unintelligent, as you'd lead us to believe.

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This is true. However, a case can certainly be made that Kerry supporters aren't as exceptionally uninformed as Bush supporters. [Check out the "Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters" Report]
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 05:06 AM

The Journalist, on Nov 19 2004, 01:21 AM, said:

He certainly should have, this just shows how dumb most of the country is.
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Um, I don't think English people were allowed to vote...
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 10:26 AM

SA-- Oh my god...How can people be so STUPID!??

pp0-- TJ isn't from the UK.
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 11:34 AM

Sundered Angel, on Nov 19 2004, 12:49 AM, said:

This is true. However, a case can certainly be made that Kerry supporters aren't as exceptionally uninformed as Bush supporters. [Check out the "Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters" Report]
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I could make a similar case showing how a majority of self-declared supporters of the 1994 Clinton Gun Ban don't have a clue as to what the Assault Weapons Ban actually does (hint: it has nothing to do with banning assault weapons as a genre, and certainly nothing to do with banning automatic weapons as a majority of the group in question thought) yet still support it blindly. Likewise, there is a similar survey of volunteers at environmental organizations floating around which shows that a large percentage of them believe that Bush's Clean Air Act was actually a step forward for their cause and beneficial to the environment, which it certainly is not.

This, unfortunately, is the nature of politics in this country. A vast majority of the nation, on both sides, is being misled by all the crap rhetoric floating around and few people have enough time to study up on all aspects of their particular candidate's platforms. I'm sure that if you were to ask the same folks who participated in that poll about, say, abortion policies of the two candidates, a number, if not a majority, of Kerry supporters would be willing to state that Kerry is pro-abortion, which he states that he is not. Likewise, I'm sure that they'd state that Bush is against renewing the Assault Weapons Ban even though he has stated that he supports it (although this would probably be seen on Bush's side also due, yes, I'm willing to admit it, to NRA propoganda). People agree with their candidate on a few issues then project all their other beliefs on that person just because it's easier than actually becoming informed. It's not right, but it is what is happening and will continue on into the future.

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 03:49 PM

vecoriwen, on Nov 19 2004, 04:26 PM, said:

SA-- Oh my god...How can people be so STUPID!??

pp0-- TJ isn't from the UK.
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I know. I am!
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 06:19 PM

Oh my dear sweet God! Honestly..."Bush only gives tax breaks to rich." What the hell kind of bull s### is that? My family doesn't make more than 35,000 a year and we got huge tax breaks. I'd hardly say that 35,000 a year constitutes as rich.
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