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#1 User is offline   moonunit4eva 

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 01:32 AM

Society as we know it is going down the le toilett. Everyone is so sick minded. Allow me to give an example.

Me two years ago~ Never said anything bad. I never said the "A" word. I shuddered to hear the four letter word starting with "S". Shucks, even the "D" word was bad! Now, imagine this also. I had not seen ONE PG-13 movie until I was 12. 12! Simply because..I didn't want that kind of thing influencing me! So ok, I was the "good girl" The one that turns 16 and drives your friends home from parties because they're drunk and you're not. Actually, I never considered myself to EVER be friends with THOSE kinds of people! Well, little by little, I started to realize, that I wouldn't be able to get away from it. And the people I respected MOST were even saying bad things like Ass, and Damn. So..I kept at it. I'm a pretty stubborn person, and so I didn't say anything bad, and I resorted to hitting people when they said a bad word. Now I only do that with the "F" word and "GD" Actually, not very much anymore. Figuring that my best friends even say 'em. I've grown used to these gestures and vocabulary. For God's sake! Have you seen TV! Victoria's Secret! What the hell! What are they thinking! But that's not the worst of it. I now find myself making sexual inuendos every so often here and there! I mean! How can I do that!? Well, I just found myself sitting on the couch yesterday, making a bunch of "inuendos" With some friends ie vec, j, and jambo. It was hilarious. But what is society doing to me? What is society doing to you? I can only hope that when I have kids, they won't have to grow up in what's around us. I honestly believe that what the clan shares is harmless, and just fun, but that's only a light side of it. IT gets much worse than that outside of our friends. What can we do? Do we really want to live with this the rest of our lives? I would rather have no kids than have them grow up around that. And one thing I want more than anything is to grow up, get married and have children. I cannot emphasize anymore how much of a problem this is. *sigh* scratch that *big big sigh*

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 01:48 AM

µ, I've noticed this, too. I hardly ever swore before this year and before I met "The Clan." But, the way I figure it, its better to get all this stuff out of our systems now, right? Or maybe we just need to stop hanging around with guys. Seriously. It can't be healthy. Well, maybe it is. Who knows. But, The Clan's couch fun sure is...fun. Keep it comin' I say!!!

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 01:54 AM

:P


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Posted 18 January 2004 - 01:57 AM

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>_>
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I agree.



Oh hush you. Its your fault. Posted Image But, we love you anyway. Of course. **winks at dude3**

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 02:09 AM

And Jambo. I hardly blame The J.

dude3, that was absolutely hilarious!

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 02:17 AM

Then agian, µ, you blame Jambo for everything. Posted Image

As for TheJ- he is hardly blame worthy for such mind-corruption. In fact, µ, I think we've actually started corrupting him. I mainly blame dude3. But, its not bad blame mind you. Just blame.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 04:24 AM

Oh no. You make sexual innuendos. You will burn in hell.

are you christian, by any chance?

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 08:14 AM

Can you say 'inhibited'? Really, people have been swearing since they descended from the trees, so don't take what obscure social 'standards' or religions try to beat into you for given. If you have to suppress it, it's against your nature - so why not shout profanities if you hit your thumb with the hammer.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 09:04 AM

Well, I have noticed it, but it hasn't got to me. I am 15 and have never cursed once. I feel you must save "bad words" for when you really need them. Adding them to your daily vocabulary just shows that you are inarticulate. Yes, my friends tease me that I won't "say f***", but if I ever did they would know just how mad I was. It really isn't hard to resist pressure. I will also say religion has absolutely nothing to do with how I few "bad words" and such.

Why are those words "bad" anyway? Seems like everyone would be a lot happier if they just changed their view of them.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 09:33 AM

They're "bad" because they used to be. They're used so excessively nowadays that they really don't indicate strong emotion. Nevertheless, it really irritates me when people at my school go around saying f*** at least once a sentence. No, you're not cool for swearing every sentence for no reason, shut the hell up.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 09:55 AM

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As for TheJ- he is hardly blame worthy for such mind-corruption. In fact, µ, I think we've actually started corrupting him.



Oh, don't worry-i have my plans.

Also, i think we have completely destroyed the respectability of the word "spoon."

As for it being healthy-gee, how would i know?

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 12:07 PM

Trah's right. And, I don't think language is the worst of it. Just look at movies and TV nowadays. I mean, my sister's what..11 now..(my baby's growing up) and we were watching a PG-13 movie right, which generally have a little color to them, but this movie was very grotesque for her age. Some of that stuff, she should not have seen. I didn't want to watch some of that. I mean, who wants to see someone having sex with someone else? Except maybe guys, but I ususally just try and ignore it. TV is getting bad too. I get extra credit in Spanish for watching Spanish TV or movies, well if I'm at home, and some Spanish TV show's just started, then I'll watch that, whether than a movie. And I'm tellin' ya, those are just...*shudders* Oh God! Just saying that some kids that grow up with parents who let them watch R movies among other things that usually go along with that...might not grow up the best...you know? Not everyone in those kinds of situations, but I'm positive for a handful.

Jambo corrupted me, that goes without saying. I don't blame him for everyone elses' corruption, but I blame him for my own. And dude3 to an extent.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 12:55 PM

Speaking of dumbness in society, I've noticed a rapidly-increasing trend of reality-TV shows.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 12:59 PM

Most of those aren't bad though. They're not the most wholesome, but they're not horrible.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 09:53 PM

Swear words gain their significance because they are significant. When said all the time, they lose their impact. I don't think that the modern usage of swear words means anything significant about society.

The current obsession with violent, pointless films, on the other hand, together with the unhealthy obsession with crime the media maintains - that, I suspect, is a problem. Along with some more political matters...

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 10:52 PM

Yep, you are undoubtably correct.

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 11:15 PM

I saw my first R movie when I was about...10 or 11. That sort of thing has never gotten to me, because I knew it was just fictions. As for the sex in R movies: I never really watched an R movie with heavy sexual content, so in that case I guess I shouldn't be talking. But, I've known a lot about sex since I was about 5, so no big deal.

Reality TV is crap. All of it. Crap. Every single one. Even though, I admit, I "endulge" in one. They are all crap. You are only saying they are "not that bad" because you enjoy them. They are crap. They teach you to be manipulitive, and distructive and cruel and a back-stabber. How is that entertainment? How can people watch, and enjoy for that matter, things like people who truly believe they are talented or have a chance get their dreams crushed. And then they laugh about it. Its disgusting.

As for the spoons: I haven't eaten with a spoon in...I'd say, about 4-5 days. I just can't forget the soothing sensation of a spoon carressing my skin...

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 12:18 AM

I didn't say I liked ALL reality TV, mainly just the funny stuff. Like the weddings and makeovers and stuff I think they're funny. Not survivor and that crap no way.

Mmmmm...I could use a fork right about now! Anybody?

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 12:47 AM

What is the point of reality shows? To entertain.

Do they entertain you? Maybe, its up to you.

Do they entertain the masses? Yes.

Are reality shows successful in their goal? Yes.

Seems like they fulfill their goal quite nicely, don't know why they are 'so bad'. Of course, I don't watch TV at all so...


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Posted 19 January 2004 - 06:26 AM

Society has made me write silly things on the screen-

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 08:00 PM

Wait, did µ say that she hit someone when they said GD? Why am I being mentioned. :P

Well just be glad you don't live near hicks.

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 08:56 PM

Swearwords don't mean anything really. Once it was separated from England, the United States, for better or worse, swiftly lost it's victorian proprieties, and over time the don'ts of then became rather commonp lace.

If one is going to be judging the foulness of someones language, one should take into account what it means. If I say ass all it means is 'butt'. If I say F*ck it just means 'have sex with'. If I say 'Steelix is a c*cksmoking F*cktard' you can take offense. People need to move on from proprieties that should have been long since abandoned and realise that swear words have been incorporated into the english language. This is the same as people who say 'like' every two words, and noone takes offense at that.


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Posted 19 January 2004 - 09:02 PM

We're American, Moonunit. Get over it. Such things have existed forever. People thought Rock'n'Roll was bad in the '50s, now its just old news. What is the difference? There isn't any. The world changes, and you can't stop it. I just take it in my stride, because I know I can do nothing. Only God can do anything....

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 10:24 PM

I'm very much against those who believe words of any nature hold any significance at all. I find that this practice not only serves to keep old prejudices going, but leads to a more uptight society. Whether these words be simple "cuss-words" (frowned upon) or parts of some type of religious document (revered), the banning of the unabridged use of any word certainly won't lead us into an enlightened age but will drag us back into totalitarianism and the dark ages.

Personally, I've learned to speak in such a manner that I can slip any word I like into my speeches without anyone noticing. One notable instance had me dropping my viola case on my foot in the halls of Albuquerque High School, which caused me to yell "f***" in a rather loud voice. I was with a small group of my friends at the time and I could not figure out why they were all looking at me in a strange manner, so I queried, "What the hell's wrong with you guys?" To which they responded, "Man, we've never heard you cuss before, you all right?" I replied, "You guys have certainly heard me cuss at some point during my long and illustrious high school career, although I'm not too sure what is so illustrious about it or why, in particular, anyone would refer to it as a career as I am certainly not getting much out of it and most certainly aren't putting any effort into it as it won't take much time at all for me to finish. Really the whole damn thing is rather stupid if you think about it. Who came up with this bunch of crap anyway? Probably some damn religious leader of the Bostonian School System back in the... What the **** am I talking about here, goddamned ****ing hell, talking about ****ing nothing. You guys just listen in closely the next time that I get fired up in English and I'm sure you'll be surprised." Which is really how an average conversation goes with me, I just end up talking for hours on end about absolutely nothing and my compatriots usually can have a complete other conversation about the weather before I finish, and they usually don't miss much... But I digress. The next class period I got fired up about fishing nets (or some other stupid thing) and when the class ended I remember that my friend Tu (the only fellow I've ever met whose entire, unshortened, first name only has two letters in it, he's from Vietnam if anyone cares) came up to me and proclaimed that I cussed almost nonstop (which simply wasn't so, maybe two or three times max) and had just managed to blend it in so well with the rest of the nonsense that I was spewing (I probably spoke for a good fifteen miniutes) that nobody who wasn't paying close attention (which always included the teacher) noticed at all. Its quite a knack in my opinion.

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