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BOY OH BOY..DOES DISNEY PISS ME OFF!

Can anyone tell me why Disney has to sink to the level of Warner Bros. and..all those other really crappy filmakers? What is up with all this computer animated crap? I don't understand how they can make ALL of their new movies, besides the ones with actors, crap. They put absolutely no time into it...It's almost as if, they now only care about money..WHY! I just want another movie like Sleeping Beauty, or Jungle Book, or Peter Pan. One that's hand drawn. AND WHERE THE FINGERS DON'T FREAKING LOOK LIKE FRENCH FRIES!!! And also..WHAT DO THEY THINK THEY ARE DOING? Making sequels to classics like Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast, and Lady and the Tramp..THEY'RE RUINING THEM!!! You don't make sequels to Disney movies..you just don't..end of story.

I love Disney, or at least I used to. I've been putting up with it...but I've just thought of something...if they have the audasity to make a sequel to Robin Hood...I'm going to murder every last one of them! HOW CAN THEY RUIN THESE WONDERFUL WORKS OF ART! These people make me sick now. What is there to do? I want my beloved movies back...untouched..no sequels...just the lovely images of NON-COMPUTER GENERATED/ANIMATED DISNEY MOVIES..IN MY HEAD!

That's all. Thank you.

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Well, if your going to murder every last one of them, Im going to take that as a threat to my sisters life. You KNOW she works for Disney Moonunit. I can answer your question simply, money. Disney wants it, so they make more movies. Quantity over quality, simply put. Board over. Lock it up SA.

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I don't get mad; I get stabby.

Considering that this topic has the most potential for serious conversation of any I've seen posted in a while... no. I think I won't.

As a matter of interest, µ, what do you think's wrong with computer animation? Shrek was a lot of fun, Finding Nemo was just adorable, and even the Toy Stories made some sense. They're not The Lion King or anything, but they're decent kid's movies.

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I don't really like the computer animation as much as hand drawn/real actors, but it still leaves the opportunity for good writing. I don't see why you would want to hunt down and kill the people who do it.

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Don't make the mistake of thinking that CGI is just a "cheap" way of going about it. It takes time, money and animators, just like old-school hand-drawn animation. I don't know about the high-end tools, but I know that to make a good CGI animation, I'd have to spend around ten times as long as I would if I were drawing by hand.

The sequel thing is just disgusting, though. And a lot of older Disney movies have a "musical" feel to them, whereas newer ones don't.

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All CGI movie require hand drawn animation for each screen. That was provided my Disney's animation studios at Disney's MGM theme park. It just so happens my sister works in that park, at the Tower Of Terror. The CGI artists use the animation as a pallett, meaning they put CG graphics on the animated characters. So HA! Animation moves with the way of the world.

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Plus they use diferent voice actors for the sequals (understandable considering that the originals are dead) I don't like any of the old disney movies except robin hood (which should never have a sequal). I think that disney makes a bunch of movies, then says "Oh. this movie did well, lets just erase the names, and the scenary, and put in new ones." (ex. Mulan, lion king, all of that ilk) That is what all of the non-actuall-story ones are. And disney can't ever keep a story strait (ex. Hunchback of Notre Dame. in the book, the hunchback dies) I think the CGI movies are the best thing Disney has done since Robin Hood (some of the CGI ones did suck. ex. Bugs Life)

Disney's human acting ones do suck, more then most. Except, of course, Disney owns miramax, and therefor, Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, Chasing Amy, and Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back, are all owned by disney. So all Disney movies made by disney, with human actors, not made by one of the movie companies owned by disney, do suck. (If that makes any sense)

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I don't care for corporate entity that is Disney at all. It has never been a particurally pleasant company to deal with and Walt was an ******* . Throughout history the company has been notorious for mistreating its employees and using questionable marketing and corporate practices. It is just a company that should be much more hated than it actually is (on a side note, you may want to consider that the boardroom scene in Dogma is based on something). Microsoft (everyone's favorite company to hate) is just a big company full of profit-minded jackasses, Disney is just evil and manipulative.

On their animated films, however, they do seem to be going through a rough patch and have lost the magic in the last couple of years. This just tends to happen from time to time with their films, and eventually they will look back at their old formula and kick it back into gear.

I, likewise, don't care for the sequel craze that seems to have taken hold over there, as it's impossible to come close to the original without the same voice actors, animators, animation techniques, budgets, and writers, and it is stupid to try. I do, however, believe that computer animation is the wave of the future, but its use in animated films has to be limited to creating fantastic characters/images, it should not try to make animation lifelike.

-Pufer

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Disney movies have never been that great. It's only been in recent years that they've become good.

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Not always. I think the genie for Aladdin was Robin Williams, and he refused to play the same part in the two sequals that followed. I guess he thought they were crap too.

Save Mulan, I haven't really liked anything since Beauty and the Beast. Disney's movies now have a preset style; there's the main character, and then some idiotic sidekick who just serves as comic relief for young kids which usually spoils the experience (as in, overkill). Then there's the obligatory songs, most of which are horrible to listen to as of late.

Robin Hood and 101 Dalmations were two Disney movies I used to watch over and over as a kid. They both, like most older Disney movies, closed with that magical ending that pretty much wrapped up the story. Of course, Disney being Disney, they had to go and try to find some loophole to get more cash out of a closed plot - which is why their sequels don't do as well. (then again, I think they know when to stop - which company is the one that's made eight Land Before Time sequels? Those are just...worse than horrible)

Then again, I'm dissatisfied with most new cartoons coming out, not just the Disney movies. The quality of cartoons seems to be going more towards the cutsy stupid-joke end. (anybody see WB's lineup recently? or even Cartoon Networks new stuff?) Thank god for the Japanese, at least they can make [url="http://"http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1186,gsvsjh,d.n_angel.html"]some[/url] decent shows.

I'll stop, I'm starting to drift into another topic intirely, namely the increasing stupidness of American TV shows.

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I think the only ALMOST decent dinsey sequel is Peter Pan. The voices were almost the same, but they left out the crocodile!

Treasure Planet, Monster's Inc., Toy Story, Nemo, etc. Those were good, that's not the animation I'm talking about, I'm talking like...Atlantis/Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Robin Williams did the third Alladin.

If they make a sequel to Robin Hood, I will kill something...that's my all-time favorite.

I used to watch all the disney movies over and over, but since around Hercules, they just have gone downhill... I loved Disney, I wish they could do hand-drawn ones again..they're so awesome..and new plots would be nice too. So yea.

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The tables are empty, the dance floor's deserted, you play the same love song, it's the tenth time you've heard it. That's the beginning, just one of the clues, you've had your first lesson, in learnin' the blues!
~Frank Sinatra
Maybe if you hadn't been smoking hobbit-weed, you would have noticed I've turned evil. ~Saruman
He seemed to be suffering from some sort of erectile disfunction. ~Mr. Ross

They did make a sequel to Robin Hood.

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- Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!
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WHAT!!!!!!!!

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The tables are empty, the dance floor's deserted, you play the same love song, it's the tenth time you've heard it. That's the beginning, just one of the clues, you've had your first lesson, in learnin' the blues!
~Frank Sinatra
Maybe if you hadn't been smoking hobbit-weed, you would have noticed I've turned evil. ~Saruman
He seemed to be suffering from some sort of erectile disfunction. ~Mr. Ross

Please don't hurt me...

::crawls into a shoe box::

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- Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!
- Are you suggesting coconuts migrate??

get out of the box, there is no Robin Hood II. I searched with google, and checked disneys site. Nothing.

Most of the Disney CGI is actually done by Pixar. They do a good job, and turn out some very good work.

Disney made the lion king, Hunchback, Herakles, Mulan, and everything went to H*ll

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Oh, thank god. I really remember seeing something about a Robin Hood II...

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So did I, but there wasn't anything on disney's site, so i guess it doesn't exist. I know I saw jungle book II ads, bet I/we were just slightly confused.

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I could've sworn I saw it... Moonunit must've destroyed all traces of it...dang...she works fast.

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Jungle Book is one of my other all -time fav movies...I'm not even going to watch the sequel

yes, I do work fast

Cinderella II sucked...soooooooooooo awful.

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The tables are empty, the dance floor's deserted, you play the same love song, it's the tenth time you've heard it. That's the beginning, just one of the clues, you've had your first lesson, in learnin' the blues!
~Frank Sinatra
Maybe if you hadn't been smoking hobbit-weed, you would have noticed I've turned evil. ~Saruman
He seemed to be suffering from some sort of erectile disfunction. ~Mr. Ross

And for the tie together? Pixar rendered the "fur" on the Jaguar "X" logo, for Apple, who makes the Macintosh operating system, on which runs Ares.

I have it on good authority that Steve Jobs is only *two* degrees from Kevin Bacon.

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wow. Disney sucks. I realised recently that they started to make sequals to stuff that is un-sequalable. Those stupid-heads.

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Isn't Steve Jobs the CEO for both Apple and Pixar?

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Yes. And one of the VPs at Pixar was a childhood friend of Kevin Bacon. That's how he's only two degrees away.

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You know, Finding Nemo wasn't that bad, for a Disney movie. Of course, Pixar had a big hand in it - but still, it doesn't fit that evil cutsy movie stereotype that has been plaguing Disney. Now, as long as they don't try to make a second one...

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Whats up with the 8 or so land before times? I thought one already had the subject well covered by Disney, or whoever comes up with that crap.

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