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#126 User is offline   moonunit4eva 

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 07:39 PM

Have you read the books? That is the more important question.

But yes, they have.


dude3, thanks for the concern, but I'm really enjoying this book so far. I thought The Fountainhead was like required college reading, am I wrong?
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:01 PM

I read The Fountainhead in 12th grade, not especially impressed. It was okay, but not all that it was cracked up to be.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:01 PM

Double post so, Ayn Rand's philosophy is rather too convoluted to completely be presented in the manner in which it always was.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:17 PM

Double the Pufer, double the fun!

I've never read Rand. Am I missing anything?
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:47 PM

I haven't read the Fountainhead, but I disliked Atlas Shrugged for similar reasons as BNW.

Some fiction authors really ought to be essayists. There are very few writers talented enough to portray the Big Idea™ they want to convey and still come out with an entertaining story.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 06:13 AM

View Postmoonunit4eva, on Jul 17 2007, 07:37 AM, said:

I don't care for Dan Brown much. I liked Da Vinci Code, but too many people pissed me off taking the book as pure fact. GAH!


Have you read Angels and Demons? In many ways I prefer it to Da Vinci.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:19 AM

The Da Vinci Code made one hell of a good movie, I thought. I never read the book, though.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 02:12 PM

Yes, Angels and Demons was awesome.

But as for The DaVinci Code, the movie sucked compared to the book. The book was sooo much better!!!

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 04:41 PM

That's what I heard. My mom told me it went way too fast to do the book justice.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 09:04 PM

I watched the film before reading the book, which I think was the best way round. The movie is great, if you don't know how brilliant the book is.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 09:54 PM

I think that's the best way to do movies-based-on-books. Just don't read the book until after the movie.

I'm not patient enough for it.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 11:30 PM

All of Dan Brown's books are the exact same book. They're more cookie-cutter than James Bond books. Of course, just like with Fleming's stuff, that doesn't mean that they're bad.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:25 AM

View Postvecoriwen, on Jul 19 2007, 12:12 PM, said:

Yes, Angels and Demons was awesome.

But as for The DaVinci Code, the movie sucked compared to the book. The book was sooo much better!!!


Yeah.. the movie completely sucked. Tom Hanks' most disappointing role. Same with Ian McKellan. It was just SO preachy compared to the book. At least with the book you could ignore all the ficticious things if you wanted, but the movie just shoved it down your throat.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 04:32 AM

I was having this conversation last night, and my friend said he didn't find the movie convincing, but got to the end of the book and thought "You know what, the story was made up, but I could actually believe all of that could happen".
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 04:33 AM

And enough people are silly enough to believe it without question.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 09:39 AM

I don't think it's about believing it, I think it's about putting such a strong case across that you finish the book thinking, there could actually be something to this. This is such a good theory, with so much evidence when you look at it this way, that I could actual consider that it's possible.

If you see what I mean...
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 12:02 PM

I see the argument but disagree. Anything can be considered fact if presented correctly.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 12:43 AM

To take something from Angels & Demons, you can't present someone surviving a thousand foot fall from an exploding helicopter aided only by a tarp and the "raging Tiber river" (anyone who has seen the Tiber river will tell you that it's not exactly placid, but it certainly isn't "raging") in a manner that could be considered factual. Even if they did survive, they're not getting out of the hospital an hour or two later, unharmed. Dan Brown does fine for the most part, but a couple times in each book he throws something just unimaginably unbelievable in there, total WTF moments.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:47 AM

But is it fair to dismiss the whole book because of one or two scenes?

My point isn't that the various scenes and stories are believable, it's more the 'world' they are presented in. The back story to them, the setting in which they are presented. That's why I like the books.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 11:11 PM

Don't get me wrong, they're good books, but the one or two unbelievable scenes do tend to sour them a bit for me.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 11:15 PM

Like laundry left in the wash too long..
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 12:29 PM

I wouldn't know. A fairy comes along and does mine for me. All I do is fill a bag with my old stuff, take it to my parents and it magically appears a few days later. Isn't magic amazing?
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 12:31 PM

Wow.. I live with my parents and don't even get a laundry fairy.

I would give anything to have one too.. I despise laundry with every fiber of my being. It angers me just thinking about it.
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:28 PM

My one isn't brilliant to be honest :P

I would be more than happy to do it myself, I think my mother enjoys doing mine, gives me a reason to go round fairly often.
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 12:20 AM

I usually can go around 2.5 weeks between having to do laundry. I do my own and have my own washer and dryer.

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