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How to Own a noob using Barathrum the Spiritbreaker and other DOTA Allstars' Heros

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:25 PM

hokay, so, you want to own some noobs in dota allstars. Here is a step-by-step process to own that most awful type of person, the noob.

Join an -ap -sm dota.
So the first thing you do to let your noob allies know how good you are is to say "top solo" and spam your signal up there. Then select the tavern with the SB, and madly click on him while mashing the "S" key so some n00blet doesn't steal him from you.
So, you have your hero and are ready to begin the ownage. The first items you buy are a ring of health and a sobi mask FTW.

Your first skill to learn should be Empowering Haste. Now wait to see which unlucky opponent is up against you. Once you figure it out, set chat to personal, and trash talk (haha) him to death.
OK now the real game starts.

1. DO NOT COMMIT SELF OWANGE: this means getting attacked by creeps early and losing allot of health, or running into a tower by mistake and dying.

2. Now your main task is waiting until you reach the glorious level 6 and 1500 gold. Do this by holding position behind the creep wave, sometimes running in to kill a low HP creep (either sent or scourge)

3. You will gain levels now. Your skill build order is as follows:
empowering haste --> great bash --> charge of darkness --> EH --> EH --> nether strike --> EH --> GB --> CD --> CD --> NS--> GB --> GB --> CD --> Stats --> NS --> Stats

4. OK so you now you have 1500 gold. Run back to the fountain and buy power treads.

5. The ownage truly begins now. Charge the poor soul who is fighting you. When you hit the ch00blet keep fighting until he runs. Then use your ult, and you will here these glorious two words:

FIRST BLOOD

so you've now owned your first noob. Continue to own noobs, and you will be rewarded with the following loud declarations from God (the voice who lets the world know how much you own):

3 - Killing Spree
4 - Dominating
5 - Mega-Kill
6 - Unstoppable
7 - Wicked Sick
8 - M-m-m-m....Monster Kill
9 - Godlike
10+ -Holy s###

The main other item you get should be Sange and Yasha. After that, its up to you based on the situation in-game what to get, but hyperstones, hearts, and bashers are generally good.


So, there you go, you just learned how to own a noob. Post a strategy to own my SB build, and i'll post a counter strategy with a new hero. Maybe this topic can become a source for ALL DOTA HEROS :P



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Also, I figure this'll basically be a topic for Znorty Av and me, but maybe other DOTA players will gravitate here.

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:47 PM

Shouldn't you go Greater Bash at level 1 instead of haste?
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Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:54 PM

No, because you want the % of movespeed as damage. Plus, you get 1 level in one creepwave so it hardly matters.

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:59 PM

But you don't need the % movespeed in damage as much as you could use the 17% bash hit early on. And you only get level 2 in one wave if you manage to get the solo spot, sometimes people don't listen and follow you anyway.
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Posted 20 December 2005 - 10:05 PM

At any rate, what about a broodmother that goes web/sting/sting/web/sting/ult/sting/web/web/stats? A broodmother using ult level 2+ when they attack you is a bit hard to take down for the 20 seconds they get an insane life leech. You'll get a few stuns in with charge/bash/spiritbreaker ult, but they can usually leech back ~120 HP per hit, and deal a nasty 200 damage in a strike at level 11+.
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Posted 20 December 2005 - 10:20 PM

Well, as SB i'd ward her early, so it wouldn't be a problem. If she was fed by a noob from another lane, i'd grab a Euls.

As for the hero to counter broodmother with, i'd go Rhasta. harass with lightning, when BM comes at me with ult, drop down my ult, shackle, owned.

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 01:09 PM

Can't really harass a bm, they just hide in webs.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 04:21 PM

Wards destroy the BM. I'm always amazed how infrequently people buy them. (yes i know the webs have true sight, but that is a waste of a web)

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 05:01 PM

Trah, on Dec 21 2005, 02:25 AM, said:

hokay, so, you want to own some noobs in dota allstars.  Here is a step-by-step process to own that most awful type of person, the noob.

Join an -ap -sm dota.
So the first thing you do to let your noob allies know how good you are is to say "top solo" and spam your signal up there.  Then select the tavern with the SB, and madly click on him while mashing the "S" key so some n00blet doesn't steal him from you.
So, you have your hero and are ready to begin the ownage. The first items you buy are a ring of health and a sobi mask FTW.

Your first skill to learn should be Empowering Haste.  Now wait to see which unlucky opponent is up against you.  Once you figure it out, set chat to personal, and trash talk (haha) him to death.
OK now the real game starts.

1. DO NOT COMMIT SELF OWANGE: this means getting attacked by creeps early and losing allot of health, or running into a tower by mistake and dying.

2. Now your main task is waiting until you reach the glorious level 6 and 1500 gold.  Do this by holding position behind the creep wave, sometimes running in to kill a low HP creep (either sent or scourge)

3.  You will gain levels now.  Your skill build order is as follows:
empowering haste --> great bash --> charge of darkness --> EH --> EH --> nether strike --> EH --> GB --> CD --> CD --> NS--> GB --> GB --> CD --> Stats --> NS --> Stats

4. OK so you now you have 1500 gold.  Run back to the fountain and buy power treads.

5. The ownage truly begins now.  Charge the poor soul who is fighting you.  When you hit the ch00blet keep fighting until he runs.  Then use your ult, and you will here these glorious two words:

FIRST BLOOD

so you've now owned your first noob.  Continue to own noobs, and you will be rewarded with the following loud declarations from God (the voice who lets the world know how much you own):

3 - Killing Spree
4 - Dominating
5 - Mega-Kill
6 - Unstoppable
7 - Wicked Sick
8 - M-m-m-m....Monster Kill
9 - Godlike
10+ -Holy s###

The main other item you get should be Sange and Yasha.  After that, its up to you based on the situation in-game what to get, but hyperstones, hearts, and bashers are generally good.
So, there you go, you just learned how to own a noob.  Post a strategy to own my SB build, and i'll post a counter strategy with a new hero.  Maybe this topic can become a source for ALL DOTA HEROS  :P
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Also, I figure this'll basically be a topic for Znorty Av and me, but maybe other DOTA players will gravitate here.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 07:30 PM

Trah, on Dec 21 2005, 04:21 PM, said:

Wards destroy the BM.  I'm always amazed how infrequently people buy them. (yes i know the webs have true sight, but that is a waste of a web)
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I know that your BM build does (or did) only get one level of web, but when you get all 4 (like me), it's not hard to spam an area, or at least a relevant area, with webs.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 09:37 PM

Don't you get eight webs anyway with a 45 second cooldown? Seems like plenty to cover any ward locations and still move them later.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 09:45 PM

Level 1 involves a 2 hour cooldown. And by two hours, I mean too long to spam.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:32 PM

Well we had a good -ar -sm -dm going, until my terrible internet finally gave out on me. I just keep telling myself, 9 more months, 9 more months (college internet). Obviously, the main reason to go to college is the fast internet.

Well, you get 1 "free" kill on the BM the first time you get wards. Its always funny to see the player just sit there getting killed, thinking he'll fade away.

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 12:02 AM

I won, they couldn't beat a 3300 HP nerub assassin with linken's, power treads, heart, cranium, S&Y, and aegis. (a large part thanks to the 5000 selling your items gave)

As a sidenote, apparently Leoric can beat SB.
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 01:00 AM

Ya, a good Leroic can (especially one that has a what was it? 5? level advantage :P). The key to stopping SB is stunning before he hits you with charge and keeping him disabled for as long as possible.

You got allot better then when we last played.

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 02:07 AM

It didn't help that Hedoth drew three completely useless intelligence heroes in a row.
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 07:49 AM

What the hell are you talking about? Magic Cards? WOW? Final Fantasy? Guild Wars? Someother game i never play?
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 02:37 PM

The most popular Warcraft 3: frozen throne custom game map, Dota: Allstars.

I've found its very hard to have a game with truly "fair" heros. I mean, if you do -ar you obviously can get big problems of say, an entirely intel team against hero killers and tanks. If you do -ap, you just wait until the other team chooses and then pick the heros that counter those of the enemy. The "most fair" mode is probably -ap -dm, which gives the "loser" the ability to counter the enemy at every death.

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 04:49 PM

Trah, on Dec 22 2005, 07:37 PM, said:

The most popular Warcraft 3: frozen throne custom game map, Dota: Allstars.

I've found its very hard to have a game with truly "fair" heros.  I mean, if you do -ar you obviously can get big problems of say, an entirely intel team against hero killers and tanks.  If you do -ap, you just wait until the other team chooses and then pick the heros that counter those of the enemy.  The "most fair" mode is probably -ap -dm, which gives the "loser" the ability to counter the enemy at every death.
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If you guys are really this into this i may actually buy it (provided its cheap).
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 06:23 PM

Warcraft is a pretty cool game – not quite strategy and huge armies alá Starcraft (which you probably already knew) *shrug*

I play from time to time, but not online.

Maybe I should…

Oh, and you can get WIII, TFT, the walk-through guides to both, and a booklet thingie for about $40 at Wal-mart. Maybe it's less now – I got it a while back.
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 07:01 PM

Ankh: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ftware&n=507846

Its kind of expensive at 35 dollars, but in my opinion totally worth it. It is arguably one of the best games ever made.

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 09:01 PM

Trah, on Dec 23 2005, 12:01 AM, said:

Ankh: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ftware&n=507846

Its kind of expensive at 35 dollars, but in my opinion totally worth it.  It is arguably one of the best games ever made.
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I'll have a look in gamestop in the january sales.
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 01:59 AM

Hahaha, do they use the killing spree audio from Unreal Tournament? (M-m-m-monster kill, Godlike, ect.)

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 02:02 AM

For some of them. The "triple kill" doesn't seem to be an UT audio, its higher-pitched, and triple kills in UT are "multi kills".
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 03:13 PM

This is just a notice that my internet was just upgraded to two-way cable, so I no longer lag out like I did in the past 8-)

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