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Ok, something I've noticed. Quite a large number of people in these stories have characters that are elves. Now this is all well and good but Cythera never had elves in it. Has this been explained before? If not, can someone explain it now? Also, what actually is the attraction of elves? I don't see any dwarfs in these stories, why are elves any better? Sure, they look prettier (if you like the whole pointiness of face), but why should that make a difference?
Not that I'm complaining or anything...
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 03:50 PM
We do have dwarfs. They have a culture, and are much better explained than elves, IMHO.
look here: [url="http://"http://homepage.mac.com/abryce/.Public/cythera/civil.htm"]http://homepage.mac....thera/civil.htm[/url]
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 03:51 PM
Well, would you ask a dwarven female out on a date? 
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 07:31 PM
Most of the elven characters come from outside Cythera - at least, those belonging to myself, Avatara and Moonshadow do. In fact, the same can be said about all of my characters except Sideline - who's also my only strictly human character, and was sort of an accident anyway.
I believe we'll get more on Moonshadow's and Ranari's origins in part 3 of The Kul'Shar Legacy, and I intend to do a chronicle about Brianna and the Scribe, eventually - probably after book 3 of the Ronin Saga: Balance of Power. If you want to know more about Avatara, try reading The Tale of the Treasure, in the Cythera archives.
That pretty much leaves Rogar (a half-elf, like Brianna), and Mr. Somebody's Larc and Martel. I have no clue about their origins.
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I believe we'll get more on Moonshadow's and Ranari's origins in part 3 of The Kul'Shar Legacy, and I intend to do a chronicle about Brianna and the Scribe, eventually - probably after book 3 of the Ronin Saga: Balance of Power. If you want to know more about Avatara, try reading The Tale of the Treasure, in the Cythera archives.
That pretty much leaves Rogar (a half-elf, like Brianna), and Mr. Somebody's Larc and Martel. I have no clue about their origins.
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 08:54 PM
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Well, would you ask a dwarven female out on a date?
Well, would you ask a dwarven female out on a date?
Only if you are a d dwarven male.
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 12:56 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Avatara:
Well, would you ask a dwarven female out on a date?
Besides, according to Tolkien, people of other races can't tell the difference between male and female dwarves.
As for my elves, I don't even know. Sya was born in Cythera, but she doesn't know where her parents were from. Amadeus still hasn't told me much yet. =]
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Well, would you ask a dwarven female out on a date?
Besides, according to Tolkien, people of other races can't tell the difference between male and female dwarves.As for my elves, I don't even know. Sya was born in Cythera, but she doesn't know where her parents were from. Amadeus still hasn't told me much yet. =]
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 02:03 AM
Aaarrgh! How could I forget Sya and Amadeus? Humblest apologies, Kat! 
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*cache goes off to look for an imaginary sword, with which to imaginarily commit ritual suicide*
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 12:19 PM
[quote]Originally posted by cache22:
Aaarrgh! How could I forget Sya and Amadeus? Humblest apologies, Kat!
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Aaarrgh! How could I forget Sya and Amadeus? Humblest apologies, Kat!
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 12:26 PM
That's not quite the question I was asking. Why elves at all? What's wrong with humanity? Also, how many of these elves have pimples, flat chests or beer bellies? I demand equal ugliness for elves!
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 01:37 PM
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*cache goes off to look for an imaginary sword, with which to imaginarily commit ritual suicide*
*cache goes off to look for an imaginary sword, with which to imaginarily commit ritual suicide*
Sorry, Madaya is using it. I think she's still angry with me...
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 04:27 PM
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...how many of these elves have pimples, flat chests or beer bellies? I demand equal ugliness for elves!
...how many of these elves have pimples, flat chests or beer bellies? I demand equal ugliness for elves!
Sorry, it's a genetic defect - they're ugliness impaired
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 04:30 PM
Well, Sarg is deformed, and only has one eye...if you can get cache to describe him more, he almost seems like a human bouncer.
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 04:37 PM
But Sarg's eye resulted from a fight. His true ugliness is all internal 
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Posted 27 July 2002 - 06:10 PM
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Why elves at all? What's wrong with humanity?
Why elves at all? What's wrong with humanity?
Beauty, immortality, superiority- why wouldn't you want an elf?
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Posted 28 July 2002 - 04:29 PM
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Beauty, immortality, superiority- why wouldn't you want an elf?
Beauty, immortality, superiority- why wouldn't you want an elf?
Arrogence, Pointy face and ears and imortality. Living for ever would be such a drag! If I were imortal I'd probably seek either death in battle or search the world endlessly for new experiences- and and up falling to new depths of sadism, evil and perversity...
Humans very mortality is one of their strongest driving forces- for a human imortality must be achieved through heroic action or some great feat. Much more exciting...
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Posted 28 July 2002 - 04:40 PM
immortality? just wait a minute....extended lifespans perhaps (living 2-8x longer than humans is nice) but living forever?
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Posted 29 July 2002 - 08:33 AM
As i understand it, the Cytherian elf is not immortal. They live quite a while though.
Btw, i am back from a 4-day absense.
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Posted 29 July 2002 - 12:04 PM
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Btw, i am back from a 4-day absense.
Btw, i am back from a 4-day absense.
Good, then you can post in JA - if you haven't noticed, we kept it going for you.
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Posted 29 July 2002 - 01:25 PM
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immortality? just wait a minute....extended lifespans perhaps (living 2-8x longer than humans is nice) but living forever?
immortality? just wait a minute....extended lifespans perhaps (living 2-8x longer than humans is nice) but living forever?
I'm going by Tolkien's elves.
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Posted 29 July 2002 - 04:42 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Avatara:
Good, then you can post in JA - if you haven't noticed, we kept it going for you.
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Posted 30 July 2002 - 05:21 AM
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As i understand it, the Cytherian elf is not immortal. They live quite a while though.
As i understand it, the Cytherian elf is not immortal. They live quite a while though.
A couple of thousand years, we decided (or Avatara decided? Whatever; it's generally accepted, now.)
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Btw, i am back from a 4-day absense.
Welcome back, Bryce; we did actually miss you.
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A couple of thousand years, we decided (or Avatara decided? Whatever; it's generally accepted, now.)
A couple of thousand years, we decided (or Avatara decided? Whatever; it's generally accepted, now.)
Uh, not really... I didn't even know of it. But then, I don't really count. *shrugs*
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Posted 30 July 2002 - 11:23 AM
Larc and Martel come from another world. They were exiled and their parents were executed when they were young. Hey! Now that is and idea for a chron!
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Posted 30 July 2002 - 11:51 AM
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A couple of thousand years, we decided (or Avatara decided? Whatever; it's generally accepted, now.)
A couple of thousand years, we decided (or Avatara decided? Whatever; it's generally accepted, now.)
A couple of thousand years was my original idea. After talking with you, I settled on 1200-1400. Then again, that's my elves, and most of them probably won't die due to old age...
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Posted 30 July 2002 - 12:05 PM
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A couple of thousand years was my original idea. After talking with you, I settled on 1200-1400. Then again, that's my elves, and most of them probably won't die due to old age...
A couple of thousand years was my original idea. After talking with you, I settled on 1200-1400. Then again, that's my elves, and most of them probably won't die due to old age...
Not if I have anything to do with it anyway...
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