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I recall reading a debate over who controls the comp in the Demo levels. The arguments for a list of recorded keystrokes by a human controller was compelling, but I have NEW EVIDENCE which calls this into doubt.

For any demo level, if you move the mouse around the screen in constant motion (just don't click -- it will cancle the demo), the computer (ie. ishmian ship under control) soon starts to go crazy, warping out of the battle and firing at random. The rest of the battle continues, and its quite amusing to see the ishmians slaughtered in Space Race, the Musical. The comp avoids combat, eventually running the time limit of the demo.

How do you explain THIS???


Disclaimer: I know that some this debate has taken place before, but due to my inability to sift through search results, I couldn't find the old forum.

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Its human... If you use a plugin with new levels the ship will move in the exact same movements as in the demos... Play ares normal and at the title screen press the one key (the one above Q) and note the movements then load a plugin and hit the one key... The movements will be exactly the same.

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Actually, this is evidence towards the player being human. The computer does not have a mouse, so obviously it would not be affected by it. However, the human player in Space Race must have clicked on a ship, and (since you moved the mouse) ended up transferring to the wrong one.

The computer would never run away from battle or fire randomly like that, anyway. It's the kind of thing a human player could do if in the wrong ship.

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yeah, what pallas said. i really wish NL had released whatever it was he used to record the demos :/

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Yeah - it was definetly pre-recorded. If you toss a plug into the program and run it - like Elejee - the ship changes, and it's speed and turning rate change, so it doesn't do exactly the same thing.

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Ah yes, you're right. The mouse movement screws up the ship in the demo of level 2 as well (when there is no transfering control--how odd). I noticed that the ship stops, fires a missle, then advances on what would have been the relay dish EXACTLY the way it normally does, but just a few lightyears off.

I wonder why the mouse movements affect anything? Strange bug, there...

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