Ambrosia Software Web Board: Ares Music and MP3's - Ambrosia Software Web Board

Some Ares enthusiasts have shown interest in listening to some of that great Ares music in iTunes, so I've volunteered to convert it to MP3 format and post it on the Addons page.

I wanted to check, however, to make sure this is allowed -- I don't want to be doing something illegal or otherwise wrong.

I'm basically looking for a response from a high-ranking official like andrew or Admiral Grammaticus (sp? or just call him Nathan Lamont, I suppose). I won't be doing anything until I get a reply.

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Mike Lee (Firebird)

That'd be nice.. I converted some of them myself a while back, but it couldn't hurt to have the rest.

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Don't want to bug anybody, but are there any Ambrosia people who want to answer? I just need a yes or a no.

If no one really wants to answer you can lock the topic then. But I'd prefer to get an answer.

Thanks.

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Mike Lee (Firebird)

I'll send this to the Ares board--you'll probably be more likely to get an answer there. I was going to tell you to do that when you first posted this, but I got sidetracked by something, I think. Sorry about that.

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Erm, I posted this on Ambrosia banter because I wasn't getting any response here, but oh well, I'll shut up now.

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Mike Lee (Firebird)

Firebird- try nlamont@arescentral.com

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I'll raise the matter with Andrew.

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Sundered Angel,
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Slug posted the out-of-game music on the Ares addons page, and that didn't raise a hullabaloo. So I can hardly see why this would either. Go ahead, if you can make it then sure.

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Thanks a million.

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[This message has been edited by Joveia (edited 06-10-2002).]

Okay, I just got permission from the Admiral himself.

I'll start doing some of them now, but I have other things that are, uh, pressing, so it might be a while before I finish doing all of them (I have the songs in WAV, need to encode them first).

Do people want me to upload them separately first, or should I do it as a complete package?

Also, I found some of the scroling-text songs a little boring and thus not very interesting to listen to, so I left them out. Do people still want those?

I don't know if this board is frequented enough for these questions to matter, but oh well.

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Mike Lee (Firebird)

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Upload them separately. That way people can select the song they want.
I dont realy care for them as something to listen to all day long.

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They never played in anything i have. So i trashed 'em. Now if it was a .mp3 file then i would be able to play it...

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Okay...the theme song, "Doomtroopers Unite!", will be making its way up onto the add-ons page shortly, then. The rest will come when I've got time, probably this weekend.

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Thanks.

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Ok, it's been released as well as that net portrait thingy.


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Perfect.

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Sundered Angel,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

Ack -- that mp3 has nasty static in it. It sounds like the high-hat sound got garbled. How did you make the mp3?

Somewhere in the dark corners of my mind I know it's possible to export a MADH as an AIFF. I don't know if I still have a machine that can even run the proper version of PlayerPro, but I'll dig around.

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How are you going Admiral? I was going to email you about something you didn't mention to me a while back. How isn't it going? Also, are you dropping my overweening services? I remember, I was a bit arrogant, I'm sorry.

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I appear to be going fine. All my parts are still attached.

Regarding the music, just for fun, I dug up all the original tunes and converted them to mp3s. Five of them are on my iDisk [url="http://"http://homepage.mac.com/biggerplanet"]http://homepage.mac.com/biggerplanet[/url] .

If some plucky nut would submit them to the add-ons area -- I'm looking at you Mr. Firebird -- that would be swell. The other three songs are ready, but there's no space on my iDisk. I'll swap them in when the first five appear here.

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I've sent off an email.

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Thanks. Yeah, that "net portrait thingy" is just a bunch of icons I found among the files I rescued from my Mac hard drive after my Mac died, so I decided to release them since, well, they were there.

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Well, it was a long, roundabout process actually. I actually first converted these on my Mac by using ResEdit (with Forker) and manually copying the hex data from the MADH resource to the data fork of file. Then my Mac died, so I lost that. Later, I discovered through my Mac emulation adventures that HFVExplorer can export the resource fork of a file intact, so I just copied the MADH's one at a time, clipped off the header/footer garbage, and played it in Quadmation's slapped-together Windows music player, WinPlayer (I never bought PlayerPro since all I used it for was listening to Ares music when I had my Mac). My sound card came with a nice recording app, so I just recorded the music to WAV files. Then I encoded them.

So, yeah, somewhere along the way, I'm sure something happened to them.

Um, would someone else like to upload the music? All I have is an ISDN, and it'd probably be quicker for someone else to do it.

By the way, has anyone else noticed that you can hear more of the instruments in this music than in the game? Or is it just the fact that I have a crappy machine running Ares?

Oh, and lastly, you can call me Mike. I no longer use the name Firebird too much; that was way back when the boards first opened that I decided to use it.

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The sound quality of the mp3s is distinctly more distinct than that found in the game itself, so you can definitely hear the instruments better. Then again, that's hardly surprising given the superiority of the format. Kudos, Admiral.

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Sundered Angel,
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I find that you can usually hear more instruments in mp3s of game music played out of the game than you do in it. Another example that comes to mind is Unreal, there's some stuff there you never hear in the game itself.

Perhaps its a limiting thing in games that only allows so many instruments at a time, or just a limit on the quality.

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I will upload the music to the addons
EDIT: Done
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[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 06-15-2002).]

Thanks Patrick. I'll make the remainder available on Tuesday.

The AIFFs the MP3s were made from were "rendered" at higher resolution than they are in the game itself, and with a small amount of reverb. Some things may sound better, other things may sound worse -- there are probably flaws that were obscured by the lower resolution.



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