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#26 User is offline   Count Altair El Alemein 

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Posted 02 March 2001 - 04:25 PM

In Ares, the Audemedon Gunship can destroy an AI piloted Eleejeetian cruiser faster than it can destroy the gunship if you were piloting. If you point out the throw-back I can point out that means you have to accelerate into the mess to finish off the ship you just catapulted across the screen.

In my own upcoming plugin, the Meson have a ship that fires a super-light torpedoe - so it hits the ship before you fire it. Plus it can generate a circular field of invulnerability for short periods of time. Of course, it's still very vulnerable to disrupters...

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Posted 02 March 2001 - 04:31 PM

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Hey, this sounds good and all, but is this like a plug in the making, already released, or what?  I want to get my hands on this.  Also, besides the Ares home page and associated links, where can i download new scenarios to try?  Thanks
By the way, best ship you can pilot is definately the elejeetian cruiser.


Check the engineering department for a topic called "while I'm on the subject...", it's all about that plug.

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Posted 03 March 2001 - 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Pallas Athene:
And let's pit a Jjaro dreadnought against it: Jjaro dreadnought faces it, fires, Collide Action: Destroyed. Non-reflexive.


Not quite, some things are too psycho, even for me. Still, StarLance would have it's work cut out.

Let's assume Pallas is right, and it costs 200 (I'd say Mag's number is more reasonable, but what the hey). That's 3 Jjaro Dreadnoughts. 375 damage per tick is 7500 damage/sec, from just one of their weapons. Add to that the fact that the Jjaro probably outrange it, and it would have some trouble.

Then there's the boarding aspect. And the third weapon, the area missle - an additional 7500 damage/sec.

That totals 15000/sec. The shields are a bit light, with 6250 each, but they have insane range.

Let's not consider Foldships, what with their near-endless supplies of reinforcements.

Oh, and if it IS 1000 resources, 16 Dreadnoughts could do 80000 damage per second. By comparison, the Cantharan Gateship supposedly has 80000 shields (although you never have to do quite that much damage to it, 40000 and then 70000 if I recall).

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Posted 03 March 2001 - 05:27 PM

I am a chronilogically challenged reprobate, and I hate every single one of you, also I tried it your way but I'm obviously too stupid to succeed.

Ares is a good game, but this webboard is beyond my understanding, and so are the all-knowing moderators, go on you beings of superior intelect, ban me, I'd love it, so go ahead and do it, stop wasting your time editing my posts and making sure I'm not a retard.

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Posted 04 March 2001 - 04:44 AM

You have to wonder why he bothers.

Personally, my favourite vessel is the Ishiman HVD. Fast, manueverable, and with an assortment of deadly weaponry. I don't judge ships by statistics.

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Posted 04 March 2001 - 09:32 PM

Salrian Carrier all the way!

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 02:42 PM

My favorite ship? Hmmmm...When I play multiplayer, I either like the Salrelian Gunship or Cruiser best (and then again, I also like the Audeoumen Cruisers...) When I'm playing the normal Ares game, (player against AI) I really like the Ishiman Heavy Cruiser and Destroyer.

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 03:10 PM

The bad thing about the Salrilian Carrier is that it's a sitting duck for swarms of attacking ships, which it's T-Space Bolt Rod can't get rid of very fast.

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 03:20 PM

That's the Salrillians' balance point; in the "rock-paper-scissors" theory, they are unable to put one into play. Aud Trazers are slightly more effective against fighters, so the Auds are less balanced.

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 03:27 PM

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I'm pretty sure UESG tactics would center around the Troopship.



Well, they haven't turned out _quite_ as good as I expected, but they're still pretty good. However, now that I'm working on the S'pht, I might have to say that the S'pht Escort is more fun (I managed to take out a Jjaro Foldship because it wasn't warping fleets, but even without that ability I'm pretty sure it's better than a dreadnought)

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 08:17 PM

The Auds are definately the best race. They have an advantage in every area, from superb firepower to excellent speed and shielding. When I play multiplayer, I stick with the Auds, and I was able to win thirty-two games straight against players over the internet before I quit playing Ares. I love the Auds! Posted Image

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Posted 07 March 2001 - 08:33 PM

Actually, the Elejeetians are better, or at least close. Posted Image Auds are the best complete race, though.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 09:06 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Mag Steelglass:
Actually, the Elejeetians are better, or at least close.   Posted Image

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 03:20 PM

Although playing as Obiards I slaughter any other race, generally, while not so with all of the others... I don't play Aud or Sal well, Jeet I do, but of course they're not complete, and I'm not sure how well beyond the cruiser I'd be. Obiards are actually more powerful than Ishiman or Cantharan, and everything else is undoubtedly lower.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 03:47 PM

Obiard Advantage: Their Escort Cruiser woops just about any other ship. I've even taken out the main Cantharan Carrier in "Assassins" with one Obish Cruiser.

Eleejeetian Advantage: They have the largest advantage of any species in the game and their cruiser is invincible. Just image what their other ships, if they had any, are like.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 07:05 PM

Just the Carrier.. Posted Image

**Goes off and eliminates the entire Cantharan force with one Escort**

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 08:19 PM

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Obiard Advantage: Their Escort Cruiser woops just about any other ship. I've even taken out the main Cantharan Carrier in "Assassins" with one Obish Cruiser.

Eleejeetian Advantage: They have the largest advantage of any species in the game and their cruiser is invincible. Just image what their other ships, if they had any, are like.



"Assassins"...That is my favorite level. Though it isn't the longest level, I love to take either my Obish cruiser or Ishiman heavy cruiser and single-handedly trash the Cantharan carrier by the planet while the rest of the alliance rids the other Cantharan fleet.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 08:40 PM

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"Assassins"...That is my favorite level. Though it isn't the longest level, I love to take either my Obish cruiser or Ishiman heavy cruiser and single-handedly trash the Cantharan carrier by the planet while the rest of the alliance rids the other Cantharan fleet.

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Nah, Ishiman HVCs don't have enough long range weaponry, while the Obish Cruiser's protopulse cannon has an excellent range and great damage.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 09:49 PM

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Nah, Ishiman HVCs don't have enough long range weaponry, while the Obish Cruiser's protopulse cannon has an excellent range and great damage.



Ah, well the Ishiman Heavy Cruiser is an excellent ship. Sure, the Ishiman aren't known for their long range weapons, (except for the pulser beams carried by the Heavy Destroyer) but they can pack quite a punch, are pretty reliable, and are the heroes of the game. The modified heavy cruiser is definately the best in the game...On the last level, "The Gateship," the modified heavy cruiser has an extremely high top speed, and excellent firepower. I used its weapons to destroy three Cantharan carriers on that level, and used asteroids to destroy the other three carriers and the gateship.

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Posted 08 March 2001 - 11:15 PM

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Nah, Ishiman HVCs don't have enough long range weaponry, while the Obish Cruiser's protopulse cannon has an excellent range and great damage.


Heh, fusion pulse does just as much damage (just barely not as rapid), plus the p-k beams are about 3x rapid, and it's got c-missiles. I think both ships are excellent, although each one has it's own strengths and weaknesses over the other.

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 07:14 AM

Still, I highly dislike the Ishiman HVCs weaponry for Assassins. It stinks, the Obish Cruiser's is much better.

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 08:30 AM

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Still, I highly dislike the Ishiman HVCs weaponry for Assassins. It stinks, the Obish Cruiser's is much better.



Yeah, sometimes I'll switch over to the Obish Cruiser, but the only advantage I really respect it for is its cloaking device. Besides that, I've grown up with the Ishiman, I guess. Posted Image Now the Ishiman Heavy Destroyer is another story. That thing is tough, awesome, and will blow anything to pulp is seconds. In multiplayer games, I can usually gain up behind a Salrillian or Aud carrier, and have it in flames with all the nasty firepower the Heavy Destroyer carries.

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Posted 09 March 2001 - 06:40 PM

Pretty much everyone can tell I've "grown up with" the Obish.

Remember: The best way to destroy the Gateship on level 21

Manoever An asteroid near the gateship, take out all of its shielding with the weaponry only, without letting it touch the Nastiroid.

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Posted 22 March 2001 - 08:03 AM

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For me it doesn't matter about the Eleejeetian Cruiser being a special ship.


In that case, the Modified Cruiser in level 20. Posted Image. BTW, my vote no longer goes to the HVC, as I've beaten Ares now. En. Cruiers 1st, Eel Cruiser 2nd, and HVC 3rd.

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Posted 03 April 2001 - 09:50 PM

My favorite is the Ishman Heavy Destroyer. Great firepower but shields are somewhat weak. In "Space Race the Musical" (need plug in to play) I took out about 6 Gatori cruisers without losing more than half my shields because I took them out before they could fire back. But the Gatori suck anyway so...I don't know.

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