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Any ambition in life... requires us to have life. Therefore, since any life needs ambition to sustain itself, it is natural, immensely natural, to acquire with thought desires - that all of them require us to override our sense of community and pursue absolute selfishness if necessary for their fulfillment. The great work of community is therefore to indoctrine it's young with ambitions that do not require their life past the needs of the community. This is not a 'natural' ambition - note - since it's needs are based on the needs of human structures rather than an evolutionary or noble necessity. The only motive I can recognise with intelligence involved would be the accumulation of all possible knowledge from information in the entire universe. This would require us, to be selfish if the society didn't support our quest. So it is the doctrine of any noble idealistic society - with hope in terms of the greater scheme, to provide without needing to be selfish all resources required to do this.

Any other ideas of ultimate ambitions I think I could be informed of provided you were sufficiently sure it was an idea - and not born simply from the society in which you live. Such an idea is not suitable for the entire purpose of the species.

-Note.

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There are only 3 kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't.
opinion change 9/24/02: Human society is a complex metaphor for slavery.

I'll try to make my next monologue more interesting - and hopefully, politically connected. Maybe even a _moral_ issue?

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There are only 3 kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't.
Freedom is ignorance.
Slavery is power.
Knowledge is nothing.

Why write a monologue when you can write a diatribe?

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Sundered Angel,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

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Why write a diatribe when you can write a theatrical production?

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I am a politically corrupt sardine, and I want to eat the tires off motorcycles-Borgel

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Why write a theatrical production when you can write a manifesto and create paramilitary revolutionary movement?

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[url="http://"http://www.leapinglaughter.org"]Dig a little deeper[/url]
As below, so above.

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Why write a manifesto when you can write a bad sci-fi novel?

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Vote 1 for Zaphod Beeblebrox- No one can escape Beeblebrox!

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Why write a bad sci-fi novel when you can create a bad sci-fi game?

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Sundered Angel,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

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Why create a bad sci-fi game when you can make a bad sci-fi movie?

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"There is a time and a place for everything."

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How can you make a bad sci fi movie? To an extent, all sci movies are good...

Why travel east when you can travel west?

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Boo.

[This message has been edited by Joveia (edited 11-29-2002).]

Here we go again

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I am a politically corrupt sardine, and I want to eat the tires off motorcycles-Borgel

All sci-fi movies are good sci-fi movies? I DISAGREE!

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"That was quick."
"Well you know, when you don't do it right it doesn't take as long."

Yes, I suppose so.

And Journalist, any attempts to derail this topic other than pure scientific free-for-all philosophic discussion will be met with the harshest penalties I can give you. That goes for limax too (if he chooses to post here.)

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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.
Society is always at loggerheads with improvement.

Well, philosophically speaking, isn't it obviously preferable to travel east rather than west? Spirituality is certainly more personally fufilling than death.

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Sundered Angel,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

What? You mean... to go west is death? oops...



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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.
Society is always at loggerheads with improvement.

Whose posts are more useless: Joveia's or The Journalist's? I say Joveia's, as The Journalist's useless posts are at least moderately amusing.

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dude3 -- the Mushroom Master's glimpse of futuristic insanity

Quote of the Week- "What do you say to that, Sparkplug?" -Howlin' Mad Murphy

Well then, I suppose your easts and west depend on the particular mythos you're referring to. In my opinion, i númë is much the preferable of the two, provided you actually get to Aman

In any case, in our world at least, they're the same thing. To get to the west, Aussies and New Zealanders would probably end up going to the east. Much shorter trip. But anyway, why go east *or* west when you could sit around and play Ares all day?

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[This message has been edited by Pallas Athene (edited 12-01-2002).]

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I agree with your disagreement. I suppose one coudl argue that Star Wars (I+II) aren't really SF, which I often do, but they're SF enough and bad enough to disprove Joveia's point.

Of course, any Fantasty movie is good, but that's because there are so few of them you don't have much of a choice. (I only know of 4, myself, and I'm counting Two Towers and Return of the King)

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Yes, all my posts are useless. Another speck of wisdom from you.

[edited. Dude3, I really don't care to talk to you anymore.]

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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.
Society is always at loggerheads with improvement.

[This message has been edited by Joveia (edited 12-01-2002).]

Never saw Dungeons and Dragons, and it makes my count 5. Although I probably should, just to see what it's like. I think I heard it wasn't all that good...

I remember a comic somewhere about why you never go to a movie with a DnD fan: "That's not a Glaive-Guisarme, that's a Bill-Guisarme!" Yeah, that's me. I could probably tell the difference. And come tTT, I'm intend on screening the Elvish subtitles for syntactic accuracy.

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* Dark Side: Gates gives $100m to fight HIV, $421m to fight Linux, Thomas C. Greene, The Register, 11.13. $100m over 10 years to fight AIDS in India; $421m over three to fight Linux. Priorities.

DnD might be a good movie, but its one of those types where you really don't feel like seeing it a second time. Or if you do, you rather regret it.

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"There is a time and a place for everything."

Probably one of the worst movies in existence based around fantasy. I watched it and was impressed with the special effects and Jeremy Irons (always a superb actor) but that was it.

The Two Towers will be worse than Fellowship of the Ring, btw.

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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.
Society is always at loggerheads with improvement.

*looks at the first post in this topic and is amazed*

So... er.. how do you guys feel about collectivity and selfishness?

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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.
Society is always at loggerheads with improvement.

Worse? I think not. We have the Battle of Helm's Deep, which promises to be most satisfying, and we'll get to meet one of my personal favourite characters, Faramir.

Dungeons and Dragons, on the other hand, was utterly appalling. Special effects won't save a dead plot, dull dialogue and poor acting. Even poor Jeremy Irons couldn't save his 2D role.

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Sundered Angel,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

I'm not hoping for a 40 minute battle sequence Sundered. Apart from that there's very little to propel the storyline. I simply hope they handle the characters well - sam and frodo could become as boring as hell. (Look, there's mordor, only another 293 miles to go!)

Faramir the actor looked somewhat timid in the trailer. I know the king is good.

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There are only 3 kinds of people, those who can count, and those who can't.

"Very little to propel the storyline", you say?

Fellowship hardly even has a storyline; it's mostly descriptions of things and walking around. You'll probably notice that they did a rather good job of switching that around.

Now, tTT has much more behind it, and things are starting to take shape. Perhaps Frodo's journey will be somewhat lacking, but I expect they'll switch off between Book III and Book IV to make up for that. They can put the interesting scenes from Book III in, and they can segment IV up just right so that you'll anticipate the return of that section of the storyline. Should work pretty well.

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* Dark Side: Gates gives $100m to fight HIV, $421m to fight Linux, Thomas C. Greene, The Register, 11.13. $100m over 10 years to fight AIDS in India; $421m over three to fight Linux. Priorities.