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I wish to make a public apology to the board members who were affected by my recent actions on GR, especially Avatara. I know that I have offended you very much, but not as much as my own self-esteem at my actions. I hope you can forgive me.
-Joveia
A Public Apology
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Posted 06 December 2001 - 08:07 PM
I don't think so. After all you did, the people you offended, everything...you want to weasel out of it by making an apology? By saying I'm sorry! I'm sorry, "I'm sorry" doesn't fix a window, nor a wrecked car. I think you owe us *much* more than just a small apology.
Apology NOT accepted, sorry.
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[Edit]Too much flaming is unhealthy, still your apology is not enough, try again.[/edit]
[This message has been edited by Avatara (edited 12-06-2001).]
Apology NOT accepted, sorry.
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*Unless it's Avatara, of course."
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Posted 06 December 2001 - 11:04 PM
Avatara, I have apologised and I cannot see what more you want me to do... If you think I can somehow offer you more than I have already done, then you are mistaken. I would admit I acted stupidly but people have thoughts, emotions that are not entirely under their control and that includes you. Please pull up here and put the past behind us. This goes for everyone involved.
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 03:46 AM
Wtf? MINUS 2 KARMA?
I hesitate to say my apology, since you are obviously a self-aggrandizing (don't know what that means, but hey) **** who does not know anything about moderating his own moderation and a few other things we have already discussed in detail. All of you should pay close attention to my words, everything said is now that I come to think of it, true.
Au revoir, and knock of a few more if you feel like it.
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[This message has been edited by Joveia (edited 12-07-2001).]
I hesitate to say my apology, since you are obviously a self-aggrandizing (don't know what that means, but hey) **** who does not know anything about moderating his own moderation and a few other things we have already discussed in detail. All of you should pay close attention to my words, everything said is now that I come to think of it, true.
Au revoir, and knock of a few more if you feel like it.
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[This message has been edited by Joveia (edited 12-07-2001).]
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 09:43 AM
What did he DO, Avatara?! That must have been a karmaslap of at least 4, and he apologised! Can either of you tell me what could possibly piss off Avatara THAT much?
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join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 05:26 PM
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What did he DO, Avatara?! That must have been a karmaslap of at least 4, and he apologised! Can either of you tell me what could possibly piss off Avatara THAT much?
What did he DO, Avatara?! That must have been a karmaslap of at least 4, and he apologised! Can either of you tell me what could possibly piss off Avatara THAT much?
Karmaslap of at least 4?? No, he didn't piss me off enough to warrant that many slaps. Perhaps it was the other people you really angered, Joveia. Perhaps you were out of your league, but still, you could at least have taken into account some consideration of other people, and especially their feelings or sensitive topics. What you did is outright rude, and probably should have gotten you permanently banned from gr. You really should rethink your actions before posting here again...
And yes, there is much, much more you can give back to the community, besides just apologizing to me.
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*Unless it's Avatara, of course."
-- From the memoirs of Sundered Angel
*Unless it's Avatara, of course."
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:07 PM
6 dropped karma points in actuality. And yes, there was something of an argument...
And Avatara, Scott Kevil should not be brought into this, I certainly don't deserve to be permanently banned from GR. Jeez, on the stupidity of some people when it comes to punishment.
The mods who I offended were themselves to blame I feel. Everyone one of them. And if they're reading this (of course they would be...) then I may I just say, not only do I repeat what I said, I openly laugh at their refusal to come and talk about it here.
Please drop off another 2. It might be funny.
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And Avatara, Scott Kevil should not be brought into this, I certainly don't deserve to be permanently banned from GR. Jeez, on the stupidity of some people when it comes to punishment.
The mods who I offended were themselves to blame I feel. Everyone one of them. And if they're reading this (of course they would be...) then I may I just say, not only do I repeat what I said, I openly laugh at their refusal to come and talk about it here.
Please drop off another 2. It might be funny.
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:39 PM
Will you tell me what the hell happened before you go bitching about it? That counts doubly for you, Avatara. I don't believe that you could drop someone by six karma on ONE point...ESPECIALLY IF IT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN ON THE WEBBOARDS! Joveia, what the flying **** did you do? I know that Avatara usually accepts humour...
BE ON GR TOMORROW!
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BE ON GR TOMORROW!
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Originally posted by Joveia:
6 dropped karma points in actuality. And yes, there was something of an argument...
And Avatara, Scott Kevil should not be brought into this, I certainly don't deserve to be permanently banned from GR. Jeez, on the stupidity of some people when it comes to punishment.
The mods who I offended were themselves to blame I feel. Everyone one of them. And if they're reading this (of course they would be...) then I may I just say, not only do I repeat what I said, I openly laugh at their refusal to come and talk about it here.
Please drop off another 2. It might be funny.
6 dropped karma points in actuality. And yes, there was something of an argument...
And Avatara, Scott Kevil should not be brought into this, I certainly don't deserve to be permanently banned from GR. Jeez, on the stupidity of some people when it comes to punishment.
The mods who I offended were themselves to blame I feel. Everyone one of them. And if they're reading this (of course they would be...) then I may I just say, not only do I repeat what I said, I openly laugh at their refusal to come and talk about it here.
Please drop off another 2. It might be funny.
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[This message has been edited by Talon Karrde (edited 12-07-2001).]
conform now. conform now. conform now.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
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Posted 07 December 2001 - 11:18 PM
Accepts humour? lol, you don't know half the story...
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 03:29 AM
Now, we seem to have a few people at each other's throats here. So, I'm going to lock this topic. Joveia, please post a new apology which actually explains what you did wrong. Avatara, no doubt it was pretty bad, but let's keep the tone a little less vituperative- at least until I can join in with it, eh? 
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 04:40 AM
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Accepts humour? lol, you don't know half the story...
Accepts humour? lol, you don't know half the story...
Why do you think I'm asking you to tell me?!
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conform now. conform now. conform now.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 04:40 AM
No wait, I'll post it here. Just let me order my thoughts,
You see, it all started-
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You see, it all started-
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 04:46 AM
Are you going to lock this or not?
Sundered Angel, all who were not involved, I'd appreciate a reason for you knowing, because telling you, will a) exasperate the problem
thus make this even bigger c) and serve no purpose. In other words, ask Avatara or... get down on your knees! Onto your damn knees!
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There are only 3 kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't.
Sundered Angel, all who were not involved, I'd appreciate a reason for you knowing, because telling you, will a) exasperate the problem
thus make this even bigger c) and serve no purpose. In other words, ask Avatara or... get down on your knees! Onto your damn knees!------------------
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 08:00 AM
Tell me! I was on GR, you ignored my PM's and quit on me! How could you!?
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Originally posted by Joveia:
Are you going to lock this or not?
Sundered Angel, all who were not involved, I'd appreciate a reason for you knowing, because telling you, will a) exasperate the problem thus make this even bigger c) and serve no purpose. In other words, ask Avatara or... get down on your knees! Onto your damn knees!
Are you going to lock this or not?
Sundered Angel, all who were not involved, I'd appreciate a reason for you knowing, because telling you, will a) exasperate the problem
thus make this even bigger c) and serve no purpose. In other words, ask Avatara or... get down on your knees! Onto your damn knees!------------------
'Do you want to allow eine DLL-Datei als Anwendung ausführen to access the Internet?' -What happens when you try to run an english program under the german version of Windows
conform now. conform now. conform now.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
differences cause conflicts. conforming is happiness.
join us. express your commonality. copy and paste.
Boom bam as I step in the jam, God damn.
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 09:00 AM
Oh come on, start forming sides! Where are my men? Where are my true men??
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 09:39 AM
all we want to know is what's going on so we can see why we have an entire flame war raging threw here
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Posted 08 December 2001 - 10:31 PM
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I do not feel your pain, and also, I'm sure certain people wouldn't like it if I just blurted it out all here.
d02kd
I do not feel your pain, and also, I'm sure certain people wouldn't like it if I just blurted it out all here.
d02kd
Believe me, we all would like some kind of explanation, as opposed to numerous posts hiding this all.
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Posted 09 December 2001 - 01:01 AM
I need to know because this has spilled over into my domain, and I cannot mediate a dispute if I don't know what has caused it. If you prefer, you could email me privately and tell me in your own words what happened- bartons@bigpond.net.au
And as for locking... damn. Forget my own head next.
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And as for locking... damn. Forget my own head next.
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Posted 10 December 2001 - 01:51 AM
Now, come ON! You think that an apology here is really enough to make up for what you said to everyone? I was there! I was watching! What you said on GR was inexcuseable! I don't see how Avatara didn't kick you off for the things you said! I can't believe that you are the same guy who used to write the RPG with me. I am sickened.
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Posted 10 December 2001 - 01:57 AM
Stop being such a self-righteous ****. You were there, but I APOLOGISED. Do you understand? This means I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. That Avatara and the otheres dropped karma after that IS THERE FAULT and that means my apology IS NOT GOING TO THEM. For you I undesrtand, and I hope we can not be enemies. Alright? Friendship, atleast, may be lost.
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Posted 10 December 2001 - 04:48 PM
Geez, must've been pretty serious.
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Posted 11 December 2001 - 01:04 AM
OK, now I'm annoyed. Really pissed off. I go out of my way to understand your point of view, and what do I get? Nada. No wonder Avatara's so damn pissed off. I fully agree with him.
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