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#1 User is offline   Sargatanus 

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Posted 04 May 2001 - 11:56 PM

I'm all for topics on touchy issues, but please be careful how you folks propose them. "THE HATED CHRISTIANS" probably isn't the best way to introduce a topic. I mean, this is Trash Talk, but use some tact.

That said, anyone feel like debating something?

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 12:32 AM

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That said, anyone feel like debating something?


Yeah, which cheese is better, Californian, or Wisconson? Posted Image

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 11:18 AM

True...but I had to say that...are you mad at me, Laguna? Posted Image

OK, hands up, who DOESN'T like Star Wars/Trek? Posted Image

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 12:02 PM

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OK, hands up, who DOESN'T like Star Wars/Trek? Posted Image



Heh.

As for the cheese, being a Californian, I'll have to go for "It’s the Cheese" cheese. Though my mom did go to grad school at Madison...

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 01:10 PM

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As for the cheese, being a Californian, I'll have to go for "It’s the Cheese" cheese.


That's the spirit!!! Californian cheese all the way!!

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Sargatanus:
I'm all for topics on touchy issues, but please be careful how you folks propose them. "THE HATED CHRISTIANS" probably isn't the best way to introduce a topic. I mean, this is Trash Talk, but use some tact.


Ok. Sorry about that. I didn't mean in any negative way… I'm a christian myself anyway, so…

**Skippy slowly backs away from the issue**

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Posted 05 May 2001 - 04:03 PM

P.S. Hey, Talon Karde, didn't mean to get you offended. Like I said, I'm a Christian too, so…

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Posted 06 May 2001 - 06:23 AM

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Ok. Sorry about that. I didn't mean in any negative way… I'm a christian myself anyway, so…

**Skippy slowly backs away from the issue**


Could've fooled me.....oh well.

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Posted 07 May 2001 - 07:23 PM

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Yeah, which cheese is better, Californian, or Wisconson? Posted Image


I like good old Coloradian cheese.

What? Colorado doesn't make cheese? Then what's all that orange gunk they serve at the schools...

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Posted 08 May 2001 - 12:25 AM

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I like good old Coloradian cheese.

What? Colorado doesn't make cheese? Then what's all that orange gunk they serve at the schools...


hehe

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Posted 08 May 2001 - 10:37 PM

It's not that I dislike christians, I know several very friendly christians. Their ideals, beliefs and morals are the only things I would have a bone to pick with.

There is nothing more frightening than a Fundamentalist Southern Baptist.

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A friend of mine (known as Jane) was the daughter of some very religious people. Fundamentalist Southern Baptists to be precise. Anyway, they were completly against the idea of their daughter dating/meeting with/ or otherwise consorting with the male gender. They were believers in the practice of "courtship" which was explained to me as this: Suitor sees girl, Suitor talks to girls father, father and suitor talk, father and suitor make arrangements for marriage, father introduces suitor to daughter, daughter and suitor are married, daughter and suitor probably make physical contact for the first time on wedding night.

Pretty scary eh?
Jane wasn't too thrilled about that, so she started dating a guy I knew, and they were happy. Parents found out, nearly put her in intensive care from several beatings and emotional trauma. Jane left home out into the world (at 18) and then entered a minor legal battle to get her stuff out of her parents possesion so that she could move out for good. Parents try all sorts of psychological tricks to get her to come back home. And before the restraining order, she was constantly ducking search parties.

The point? That Fundamentalist system of ideals seems very much to infringe upon the freedoms of people. That is why I don't agree with them, and in some cases severely dislike (okay, hate) them for their actions.

If you really want to read about reasons why not to be christian, read Why I am Not a Christian. Good book.

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Posted 08 May 2001 - 11:43 PM

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P.S. Hey, Talon Karde, didn't mean to get you offended. Like I said, I'm a Christian too, so…


Well, you definitely fooled me... Posted Image

Why did you post it in the first place, if you're a christian? Why not just debate religion in general in one huge topic? Posted Image

PS. And you're lucky that unregistered people cant be Karmaslapped... Posted Image

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Posted 09 May 2001 - 07:55 AM

I'm Christian, technically. *Shrugs* It doesn't really affect my life much. Posted Image

Anybody tried Feta Cheese? It's quite interesting, made from Sheep's Milk. Very mild on the palate.

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Posted 09 May 2001 - 04:55 PM

Irish Red Cheddar Cheese, simply cannot be beaten.
A close second Aura, a mild finnish blue cheese, for those of us who like mould growing on our food...!

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Posted 09 May 2001 - 05:50 PM

Swiss with sandwiches, but never alone.

A good solid cheddar for straight eating.

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Posted 09 May 2001 - 10:48 PM

Tillamook Cheese is the best, I say.

And I agree that some religious beliefs can be very silly and cause many of the world's problems. It's too bad, really.

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Posted 10 May 2001 - 09:45 AM

Okay, when I had put the thing in all caps, I did not mean it in any offending way. I wasn't trying to scream it out or anything like that. My apologies to all, and I will try to be more carefull when talking about controversial topics in the future.

Anyway, I've had this really good cheese up in Canada. All I can remember calling it was "cow cheese", cuz it had a picture of a red cow on the wrapper. The name probably won't help anyone finding it much tho, since most cheese is made from cows.

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Posted 10 May 2001 - 05:24 PM

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The name probably won't help anyone finding it much tho, since most cheese is made from cows.


Well...darn. I thought cheese grew on trees, what do I know?

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Posted 13 May 2001 - 10:55 PM

Pepper-Jack, yuuummmm!!!!

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Posted 15 May 2001 - 09:08 AM

Cheddar all the way! Posted Image

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Posted 22 May 2001 - 01:55 PM

Since El Spamo posted a recommendation of the book "Why I am Not a Christian," I feel I should recommend a book for the "other side." Those of you who don't understand Christianity or want to know what Christians believe, I recommend "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. Some of you may know that Lewis was a reknown atheist in his time, but later through logic (yes, you can be a Christian and not have to "check your brains at the door"), found what it meant to be a Christ-follower ("Jesus Freak" to some of you..).
It's very well written, perhaps better than you may think!

Hope this helps in making the issue more balanced.

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Posted 24 May 2001 - 03:04 PM

I, such as El Spamo, can tell stories of abuse in the name of Christianity...as well as Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc. Get the picture? Abuse knows no religion; it's everywhere! And to label it as a Christian problem, is just plain wrong.
I grew up Baptist, and yes they are at times Legalistic (funny, Jesus was against this during HIS day!). Don't confuse "Fundamentalism" (believing the basics) with Legalism (ritual and works is far better than God's grace). Legalism, I believe is what is wrong here, not Christianity. I hope this helps...

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Posted 26 May 2001 - 04:06 PM

I'm for christianity all the way, as long as it doesn't stop me from smoking pot or drinking beer from time to time...

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Posted 26 May 2001 - 09:09 PM

I don't like cheese much, but I'd have to say smoked gouda is pretty good.

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Posted 26 May 2001 - 09:12 PM

I like this, Cheese and Christians.
I'm Greek Orthodox and don't really care about other religions; why? Because we were all taught in Sunday school that our religion was the right one; in some form or another.
And Feta Cheese isn't sheep milk, it's goat milk; it's Greek (like me) and it's salty (like me when I'm sweaty).

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