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#26 User is offline   Fleet Admiral Darkk 

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Posted 02 January 2001 - 04:20 PM

The Ishiman gateship appears in the game, and Nathan probably knows how well its armed. The Audemedon Battlecruiser might not even EXIST, so Nathan probably can't tell us its armament.

The Ishiman gateship probably has point defense lasers/repulsers/something-or-other and a group of HVD/carrier/HVC escorts. I can't imagine NOT defending something that important, and it would be hugely important, even if there are 5 of them.

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Posted 02 January 2001 - 04:34 PM

I'm thinking along these lines:

1-Electromagnetic Disruptor (weapon that makes your ship systems go nuts, was on Cantharan gateship)

2-Fullerene Pulse Turret

3-Auto-Target Torpedo Repulsor (weapon on Cantharan gateship that makes you go flying)

As for numbers of ships, I'm not exactly sure. Some text bits in Ares hint that the Ishimans only have one. Five gateships seem a bit unrealistic. I mean, the Cantharan Order, which I assume is very large and has access to large amounts of resources, has only built one. If I had enough resources to build two, I would build two. Apparently the Cantharans can't. Since the Ishimans might even be smaller than the Cantharans, I don't see how they could possibly build five gateships. Gateships are big, hard to build, and expensive. They take lots of resources and lots of time.

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Posted 02 January 2001 - 04:38 PM

They probably have a fleet on standby at all times, and the gateship can bring it in whenever it feels threatened.

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Posted 02 January 2001 - 07:21 PM

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a) it is unarmed
:P there is only one
c) it's shields are near impenetrable.

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Slug:
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a) it is unarmed
:P there is only one
c) it's shields are near impenetrable.



Huh. The Cantharan gateship also had NEAR-INPENETRABLE shields, and look how my 50> human gunships tear into it.


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Posted 03 January 2001 - 12:09 PM

I think Slug meant a different type of shielding (exotic defense systems seem to be in vouge on gateships, how many other ships had shikorelators and em jammers?). Basically, the difference between a kevlar vest and a bunker under a mountain. The gateship almost definatly has a large energy supply, and probably has a few HVC/defense drone or better escorts.

Also, according to Slug on GR, the Ishiman gateship is 3km in length, the Cantharan one was 5km, and a human carrier is 2 miles (3.22km) for purposes of compairison.

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 04:35 PM

I think the Ishimans are much more technologically advanced than the Cantharaans, so they can build a much more efficient Jumpstream system, perhaps it costs less and uses less power, hence the Geteship can be smaller, and remember, the Cantharaans are concentrating on a crusade, and are getting resources through slave labor on captured worlds. The Ishimans get resources through highly automated Astrominers. The Ishimans could afford another gateship because they're not building carriers by the thousand, and their infastructure is Civil, not military. A gateship requires extremely specialized equipment, which couldn't be built at a standard military facility. The Ishimans have lots of high tech factories around, and lots of resources to put into them. They have a much more refined production process, which is probably more efficient and produces a much more refined and capable gateship.

(Unless of course that comes from Nathan Lamont, in which case, chuck that out the window)

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 08:53 PM

I think the Ishiman gateship is unarmed. It's tough, they could have fleets on standby, and (big one coming up) gateships can easily RUN. I'd like to see someone kill a healthy gateship before it ran away.

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 10:27 PM

*cough*Chapter*cough*nineteen*cough*

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 10:38 PM

*cough*it*cough*ran*cough*away*cough*

That was a Cantharan gateship, commanded by a rather foolish Cantharan. An Ishiman commander would have run at the first sight of resisting humans.

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Posted 03 January 2001 - 11:23 PM

Slug, the gateship ran away before it was killed. It was killed later, but it was damaged to the point where it couldn't completely act as a jumpgate inhibitor, and couldn't run away. It also wasn't healthy, which was one of the requirements. Posted Image

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Posted 04 January 2001 - 09:39 AM

Here's another question. Can you pilot all of the 8 main races (Aud, Sal, Ish, Can, UNS, Baz, Obish, Gait) on the net? (I don't have internet at home yet [on a mac, anyway] so I can't use GR)

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Posted 04 January 2001 - 02:39 PM

Baz and Obish (as well as Eleej) don't appear in the factory net scenarios. If you get the beta, they appear in many plugs, as well as the Eleej.

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Posted 04 January 2001 - 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Talon Karrde:
Here's another question. Can you pilot all of the 8 main races (Aud, Sal, Ish, Can, UNS, Baz, Obish, Gait) on the net? (I don't have internet at home yet [on a mac, anyway] so I can't use GR)


You can't be Bazidanese, Obish, or Elejeetian, but you can be The Grolk!

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Posted 07 January 2001 - 11:24 AM

I thought the Grolk only appeared in 'The Rogue'. (Chapters 1 and 2 of that plug are amazingly fun. It's the only plug that works without the Beta that I have found, xcept for 'Secret Levels'. (Thanks, Slug Posted Image))

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Posted 07 January 2001 - 11:40 PM

Dude, the Rogue is UNTRUSTWORTHY. It has been accused of being halucinogen inspired, and is pretty much COMPLETELY FALSE. Sorry Mag.

Don't believe everything you read.

Also, there've been threats to delete your "Eleejeetian Gateship" stuff. Just a warning, make your sacrafice to the mods daily, and work hard to please them.

***Sacrafices an "idea testing ground" plug to the mods

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Posted 08 January 2001 - 10:24 AM

Darkk: I know it's false. Have known, actually. Ever since about, oh, when I first started making it... Posted Image

Karrde: They appear in two of the multiplayer levels for Ares.

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