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Kerry-Edwards Rivalry

#26 ShinobiGatakana

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 11:53 PM

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1. I don't think they used SAWs in Vietnam.

2. Not all US soldiers in Vietnam engaged in slaughter of civilians.

3. Like most people, I ascribe more blame to the politicians who send the soldiers to war than the soldiers who fight on the battlefield. Soldiers sign up to defend their country - it's not their fault if the politicians leading the nation have a faulty idea of what "defence" means.

1. They did, my Uncle Brad was the SAW operator in a four man squad on Hill 54 outside of Da Nang

2. I was talking about Kerry, not the whole damn Army. What does this have to do with my post anyways other that the killing of civilians? KERRY, that was the only person I was talking about. I didn't mention anyone else.

3.Kerry wasn't and isn't a soldier or ever was. He was a murderer. Plain and simple. No one ever ordered US Army soldiers to kill civilians. You wonder why he isn't in the Army, or why he left Vietnam? HE WAS COURT MARTIALED. Thank you, and have a nice day.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by ShinobiGatakana:
1. They did, my Uncle Brad was the SAW operator in a four man squad on Hill 54 outside of Da Nang

It really doesn't matter if the Army used SAW's in Vietnam, Kerry was a Naval officer on a swift boat armed with a standard Naval .50 caliber machine gun and a machinegunner to run it.

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Originally posted by ShinobiGatakana:
2. I was talking about Kerry, not the whole damn Army. What does this have to do with my post anyways other that the killing of civilians? KERRY, that was the only person I was talking about. I didn't mention anyone else.

First off, Kerry had nothing to do with the Army. Secondly, Kerry killed civilians in a "Free Fire Zone" where one is supposed to fire at anything that moves. He did so because he was bound by the rules set by a millitary hierarchy that had no idea what it was doing. I, like SA, blame the leadership.

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Originally posted by ShinobiGatakana:
3.Kerry wasn't and isn't a soldier or ever was. He was a murderer.

He was a soldier and was only doing his job, I take offense at your attitude toward our armed forces.

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Originally posted by ShinobiGatakana:
No one ever ordered US Army soldiers to kill civilians.

I'm pretty sure that it has been established that such an action was undertaken quite a few times during the war, many of the offenders have been brought to justice.

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You wonder why he isn't in the Army, or why he left Vietnam? HE WAS COURT MARTIALED. Thank you, and have a nice day.

You don't know what you're talking about. He was never in the Army and he left the Navy on a technicality (thrice wounded soldier) with an honorable discharge.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:36 AM

Don't try to discuss politics with Shinobi. He's already made up his mind.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:00 AM

You can't "make up your mind" about politics at a young age. The only way to be concrete about politics before you're at least in your twenties is if you've had your mind made up for you.

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#30 Shrout1

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:21 PM

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Don't try to discuss politics with Shinobi. His mind is made of butter.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:05 PM

He. I like Shrout's better.

Shinobi, you are a cracker. Shut up. You know less than you think you do.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:20 PM

And I suppose you know more than me? You only have the right to complain if you have the knowledge to back it up. And you're damn right I'm a cracker, I go good on soup.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 03:14 PM

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Shinobi said:
And I suppose you know more than me? You only have the right to complain if you have the knowledge to back it up.

Not true at all. I know that I have a lot to learn about politics,l but that doesn't mean that I can't tell you that you have a lot to learn as well. Once you graduate high school, then give me your opinions. They might have something to back them up then.

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And you're damn right I'm a cracker, I go good on soup.

That was lame.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 03:40 PM

Children, children...

Fire is always fought with fire - that's why no one likes flame wars.

As for the democratic candidates, I don't know much about them at this point and I won't be involved in their primary, so I don't particularly care.

Politics is meant to be played with a level head and a cool hand - look at why Dean got shot down. Shinobi, make your claim, present your evidence and end in a civil manner - that'll get you plenty further then just yelling OMG WTF HE IUS GHEY.

LOBF - be nice now. Only Shinobi's mind goes well with crackers (it is, of course, still made of butter Posted Image

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 04:24 PM

Cries on Shrout's shoulder.

Well said, by the way.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by lotsofblackflags:
Cries on Shrout's shoulder.

Shrout1 dispenses kleenex

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 05:31 PM

Ummmmm...

Ummmm...

Maybe we've gone too far...

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:31 PM

[Overly sized picture of a couple kissing]

No. Now we've gone too far.

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Can you imagine if I was deranged?

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:38 PM

I will contribute with this

[Overly sized picture of a guy in leather overalls]

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 07:48 PM

A random picture topic. Goody.

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#42 vecoriwen

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:11 PM

The two people in mine seem to be atempting to devouer eachother's faces. Notice how the male seems to be gouging out the female's eyes. Notice her liking it. Notice me making a donation to the porclin god.

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#43 dude3

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sundered Angel:
You can't "make up your mind" about politics at a young age. The only way to be concrete about politics before you're at least in your twenties is if you've had your mind made up for you.

A very real possibility.

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 12:05 AM

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The two people in mine seem to be atempting to devouer eachother's faces. Notice how the male seems to be gouging out the female's eyes. Notice her liking it. Notice me making a donation to the porclin god.

I seriously thought for a moment that both of them were male.

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#45 vecoriwen

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 12:25 AM

Maybe both of them are. I think its in the link name, but the one on the right looks rather feminen. So who knows.

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 09:59 AM

Ahhh - I wanted to see those pictures SA! Taking them away from me... Something about leather...

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 10:50 AM

SA wants all the pictures for himself...greedy bastard...

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#48 Shrout1

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 10:52 AM

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SA wants all the pictures for himself...greedy bastard...

I bet he has twenty copies on his hard drive! HOG!

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 11:05 AM

*raises a screaming crowd of rioters not unlike that in gangs of New York*

*they proceed to burn down SA's house, and destroy all the pictures in an unstoppable rage*

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 12:45 PM

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Many muffins.

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