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#26 User is offline   ShinobiGatakana 

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Posted 15 December 2003 - 11:30 PM

just ask for a bamboo pole. And there you go, you have a Bo (thin, flexible staff). Or a bokken (wodden katana). I bought mine for $11.99 at Dragon spring on South Wells, Mu. Im pretty sure you would find something you like there. They have really nice tea and sake sets.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:57 PM

Isn't selling weapons to minors illegal?

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:15 PM

Not in Nevada, as far as I know. I think it applies to projectice weapon that doesnt require reasonable force on the behalf of an individual. Thats why blowguns are leagal, but rubber band guns aren't. All hand to hand and bladed weapons are legal though.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:36 PM

Good lord. You could just walk into a store and buy a katana?

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 12:44 AM

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Good lord. You could just walk into a store and buy a katana?



If we went back in time a couple years to when I was still a minor, I could have sold him that katana (and still can, I have a wholesaler's account with a weapon distributer) here in New Mexico. In fact, so long as a minor doesn't actually have it in his unsupervised possession during the transaction, a minor can purchase firearms in this fair state as there are underage firearm possession laws, not purchasing laws.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 12:56 AM

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Yes.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 12:59 AM

I cant buy any guns, but I sure as hell can buy something that can cut your head off if you stand 6 feet from me. I LOVE THIS STATE!!!!

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 01:55 AM

I'd say that that's unaccountably disturbing, but it's not. Allowing children to buy lethal weapons is just plain dangerous.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 10:57 AM

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I cant buy any guns, but I sure as hell can buy something that can cut your head off if you stand 6 feet from me. I LOVE THIS STATE!!!!


Woo-Hoo!!

I hate when people say stuff like that, because you would never just cut somebody's head off.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 06:01 PM

I doesnt mean I would. It just means I can. And SA, being able to buy things like swords is part of the United States. The 2nd Amendment states "All Citizens have the right to keep and bare arms." Hence, I can carry a sword on my back, and the police cant do a damn thing to me. I can also carry a gun in a holster on my hip, but it cannot be in any way concealed except the holster in which it is being carried. Any more questions, just ask. Oh, and there is common sense, no one should see a weapon to a 3 year old. Im 16, and I'm trained in the use of all the weapons I posses.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 06:32 PM

And people wonder why there are so many school shootings and murders in the US.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 06:37 PM

You have to be 21 to buy a gun in the U.S. You cant even buy ammunition if your under 21. You graduate high school when your 18. And guns dont kill people, people kill people.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 09:57 PM

You can still get a gun. Maybe the person was taunting the person witha gun thus getting there ass kicked because there a stupid **** pissing someone off with a gun.

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Posted 17 December 2003 - 10:26 PM

The "2nd Amendment" excuse people cite is balderdash. The full clause reads "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The clause is intended so that the US can defend itself if invaded, not so that people can wander around waving lethal weapons like designer handbags. Why do you think that there are more murders in the US than the rest of the world combined? Why do you think that the attrition rate for American cops in the US is higher than for American soldiers in Iraq? Why do you think... ah, forget it.

Guns kill people. Or at least, guns in the hands of Americans kill people. Maybe the Swiss know how to handle them; children in the US do not.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 12:15 AM

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You have to be 21 to buy a gun in the U.S. You cant even buy ammunition if your under 21.


That isn't even close to being true. The legal age to purchase a firearm is regulated on a state-to-state basis. As I have already said in this topic, there is no minimum age to purcase a firearm in my state, and there are absolutely no state laws here regulating any kind of ammo at all, much less declaring an legal age to possess.

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The clause is intended so that the US can defend itself if invaded, not so that people can wander around waving lethal weapons like designer handbags.


That isn't true either. While Madison did occasionally mention protection from an invading force as a basis for the Second Amendment, it was usually as a side note. Protection from the formation of a despotic regime was the primary motivation for writing the Second Amendment according to Madison who, along with Hamilton, Jay, Jefferson and numerous other founding fathers, also wrote that the right to firearms for purposes related to food procurement and self defense was a given right of every free man. We can certainly take Madison's word for it as not only was he President of this land, but he also was the man who wrote the Second Amendment.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 12:25 AM

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You cant even buy ammunition if your under 21.


Then how did the two architects of the Columbine Shooting manage to buy all of their bullets for $9 at a K-Mart down the street a day or two before the incident? K-Mart may have reformed their sales policy since then, but a lot of stores haven't. A 10-minute drive to the nearest mall, and I could pick up ammunition, possibly even a gun, if I wanted to.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 12:43 AM

K-Mart sells bullets?

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 12:55 AM

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That isn't true either. While Madison did occasionally mention protection from an invading force as a basis for the Second Amendment, it was usually as a side note. Protection from the formation of a despotic regime was the primary motivation for writing the Second Amendment according to Madison who, along with Hamilton, Jay, Jefferson and numerous other founding fathers, also wrote that the right to firearms for purposes related to food procurement and self defense was a given right of every free man. We can certainly take Madison's word for it as not only was he President of this land, but he also was the man who wrote the Second Amendment.

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I'll take your word on the despotic regime intention, but self defense was an entirely different matter back when the Constitution was framed. Having a gun in an uncivilised country still trying to pull itself into a nation and having a gun in a modern, civilised state are two very different things.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 09:59 AM

Are you even from the United States SA? Cause if you not, you shouldn't even be talking. Beleive it or not, but I've been held up a few times. Criminals prefer knives, not guns. They're too expenisve. A steak knife can be used as a weapon, even a plastic picnick knife. Ask my mother, she stabbed her sister right throught the arm with one of those cause she took a cookie out of my moms bowl.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 02:12 PM

K-Mart used to sell bullets until about a year or two ago, I think. There was something about two of the kids that still have bullets stuck in their bones going to K-Mart headquarters and complaining that bullets are too easy to buy.

And Shinobi: I've never been held up, and I've lived in the US all of my life. It depends on where you live, who you hang out with, and your parents' behaviorial habits.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 02:46 PM

Shinobi: Perhaps you get in trouble to easy. I've never been held up.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 05:07 PM

I'm not old enough to just go wandering by myself. I ride my bike around a pretty good neighborhood, and never even been threatened by bullies.

Well, there was that one...no, I've never been held up. I don't carry money.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 09:15 PM

Go to downtown Reno or LA, and you'll get held up for sure. You'll just get shot if you wear red in reno or orange in LA.

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 11:00 PM

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Having a gun in an uncivilised country still trying to pull itself into a nation and having a gun in a modern, civilised state are two very different things.


Yeah, in the same way that having the freedom of speech to speak out against the government was a very different thing back when the government was less stable and wasn't as modern and civilized as it is now. Posted Image

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Are you even from the United States SA? Cause if you not, you shouldn't even be talking.


It doesn't matter where SA is from, he still has a right to his opinion and can express it on this board. But that is irrelevant as he is presently living on US soil and faces the same problems that the rest of us do (being an Aussie doesn't make you bulletproof, although that would be cool Posted Image ).

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Beleive it or not, but I've been held up a few times. Criminals prefer knives, not guns. They're too expenisve.


You must have some pretty lame criminals up in Reno. If a criminal can't afford to plop down a hundred bucks to get some P.O.S. gun, he should seriously reconsider his career choice.

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 01:25 AM

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Go to downtown Reno or LA, and you'll get held up for sure. You'll just get shot if you wear red in reno or orange in LA.



As I said, if you wander around a bad neighborhood you're inviting trouble. The majority of US cities aren't like that. Unless you're an idiot and go around looking for trouble in dark alleys just to prove me wrong.

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