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Now there's a real evil...

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"Nobody pays attention anymore"
"What?"

Yes. But back onto the topic:

Here is a little something you collectivists need to read...

A collective if defined properly can either be a bunch of individuals who go about their own aims (thus non-unilateral will) and are only classified as a 'collective' because they have something in common which may or may not have any weight with them, nevertheless the point of this non-unified collective is that they are not unified or unilateral, they merely possess degrees of assocation.

The other collective type is a bunch of people who work together for some aim. Now this is what collectivists want all of humanity to be: and they especially abhor the power of individuals because they see the group as being somehow superior.

Now first off, the individual is classified as such because he/she has a unilateral will. What is this unilateral will? The ability formulate plans for themselves without division. Compare this to the unilateral group. The difference between the Group and the Individuals is therefore defined by size. The Group has more than 1, the individual has no more than 1.

Those of you working together without division for a cause represent exactly the same equation as those working by themselves for a cause. Thus I am somewhat confused by the leftist position where they acuse individuals of having too much power, while they wish to promote the power of group-individuals. This is quite obviously influenced by a number of factors, perhaps they themselves wish to partake in the power of their group-individual? It is after, all possible to join a group-individual while an individual is inviolate.

Another problem with these group-individuals is that they cannot be governed by everyone, except in rare cases such as some terrorist organisations where everyone is working together for an aim without the need for a specific leader to turn to. Patriotism is devoted to the country, not the president or government. However when people need to be run and have instructions given to them, a 'head' of the group forms, who is essentially running the group and has social dominance (otherwise the group can't respect him.) This is where dictators/tyrants come from, they are an individual inside the group, running the group. The group demands they exist however, one can blame the itself group for the evolution and following of such individuals.

In the evolutionary equation the greatest weight is given to those who can ascert dominance while still killing and destroying weaker elements of their own species. Actually it appears to be the smallest possible unit that exerts the greatest possible weight, finding an equilibrium where there is maximum power for the least size. As soon as size gets too large and power tapers off, then you have over-grouping, which is bad (like if there was a world government for instance, constantly hammered by ineffeciency and beaurocracy on a scale which the UN represents a very insignificant number.) Or under-grouping, where the group lacks power it could easily gain by expanding itself. This ideal point is what we must achieve - and unfortunately it cannot involve the entirety of humanity.

Thus evolutionary laws demand that we must constantly strive to find this equilibrium. Accepting this we know we cannot involve everyone in this species or even many of them into this group. Thus they cannot enter this group. War and conflict demonstrate which is the best group, worthy of emulation. The rest must all be dissolved.

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